rolli Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 pvd coating information a member from this board had a lot of questions about my new PVD PAM111. so i thought i give my answers in this thread, for more information about PVD-Coating. i'm not a dealer, i'm a private person and this kind of work with pams is my passion. my friend, a really good watchmaker-master, i've got from him a lot of experiences. so i wanted to start a pvd project with a pam111. i was searching for a pvd-coating company. the most companies makes pvd-coatings for metallize of tools. some makes that for industry-products. like doorhandles, car-parts, reflectors, halogen-reflectors, etc. you have to know pvd is not black. pvd is a kind of synthetic-material and transparent. this transparent-material gets with add-on of color-material the different pvd-coatings-color. black, dark-black, silver, gold, red, blue, etc. is the object polished -- after pvd-coating the surface is polished. is the object brushed -- after pvd-coating the surface is brushed. the pam111 got for the surface the bead-blasting. so, the bead-blusting ( regular is glass-ceramic bead ) is one of the surface-work. jewellery and glasses-frames with black pvd-coating that makes special companies. most in swisserland. i had luck. in my location there is one company, they make pvd-coating with different bead-blasting structures for jewellery and glasses-frames. one person checked for me the mix of the glass-ceramic-bead with a share of corundum. the mix is 70-75% glass-ceramic-bead and 25-30% corundum. thats why the surface of the watch looks like the gen pam. the procedure of pvd-coating is in a high-vacuum machine with 60-300 degrees temperature with a ionic-process. so, each gasket would burn. important is that the watch-case are in separates. first take out the front-glass with gasket. then the bezel. between the bezel and the case is a teflon-gasket, in the crown is a gasket-o-ring and in the case-tube is a gesket-o-ring, and in the case is a gesket for the case-back. crown without stem ( the stem is screwed in the crown ). the crown-guard has a link for the lever, and in this link is a plastic tube with a pin. important: no bead-blasting in the screw-jack holes and bezel-case-edge and case inside. ( caseback without pvd-coating ). why no bead-blasting: otherwise no waterresistent. maybe i could help for a better pvd understanding. rolli ps: from palp comes the new thicker crown. some pictures Pam111 PVD with K.Wong gen Croc: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 It looks beautiful! Love PVD. But a little work on the crown guard would make it even better. The fit of the CG against the case is not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Rolli, excellent post! Very imformative regarding PVD, As I agree with Clive,,, I am a pvd lover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carl Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Beautiful... I love the look. Now all we need is a PVD GMT with a brown strap... Maybe I'll give it a try. Thanks for the post. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovepanerai Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 thanks Rolli for the great information, I wish we could do this here in the US (Jack doesn't accept replicas anymore ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario33 Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Thanks for the PVD tutorial -- good info to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai-ss Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 This is the best PVD I have ever seen. Really really want to have many like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Almost as good as mine!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Almost as good as mine!! hi finepics, it gives only one way to make a good perfect pvd-coating like the gen. important is the mix of glass-ceramic-corundum bead. with the mix-ratio you have a slightly influence on the pvd color structure. i know the right making of the pvd procedure. trust me. rolli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Rolli - nothing wrong at all with yours - just pokin a bit of fun at you!! Actuallly mine were just blasted with bead only. The 009 looks darker because of the lighting in the photo. The 028 photo is pretty accurate colour wise and all you readers will be able to see the slightly purple hue that is talked about with TiALN PVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai-ss Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi Rolli, Could you set up the project to offer the PVD case just like Palp offer the crown. It would benefit all of us. I think I don't see any PVD as good as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi Rolli, Could you set up the project to offer the PVD case just like Palp offer the crown. It would benefit all of us. I think I don't see any PVD as good as yours. Must be blind!! It's not something that can be offered in advance with a ready to go case as the cost of buying in the cases is too expensive to hold a stock that might not get sold. This is why I offer this as a custom service for people that already have a watch that they want coating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi Rolli, Could you set up the project to offer the PVD case just like Palp offer the crown. It would benefit all of us. I think I don't see any PVD as good as yours. thanks for your question and warm words. please wait a little bit, circa 2-3 weeks, than is this pvd model completed with a thicker crown-guard and palp crown. then the result in pictures. cheers rolli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chief Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I'm thinking about PVD model next my PAM. Yet I don't have any PVD model.. Rolli, Isn't PVD coating off and and isn't the colour peeled for scratch? Please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 here some specifications. rolli Surface Hardness: -- Stainless Stell 200-300 HV -- Galv. Pd/NI 550 HV -- Galv. Chrome 800 HV -- Brass 200-300 HV -- PVD - ZrN 2400 HV -- PVD - CrN 2100 + 400 HV _____________________________________________________________ Basis Material For Coatings: -- ABS - Synthetics -- Zinc Die-Cast -- Aluminium -- Stainless Steel -- Brass -- Titanium ______________________________________________________________ Applications: -- Cars - Interior / Exterior -- Door Fittings and Safety Engineering -- Sanitarian Fittings -- Door Intercom -- Mailboxes -- Furniture Fittings -- Electronic Components -- Medical Technology -- Dental Technics -- Hearing Aid Devices -- Optics -- Eye Glasses Frames -- Watches -- Watchbands -- Jewelry -- Lifestyle Products -- Accessories -- Writing Utensils -- Scissors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chief Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Thanks Rolli for the kindness information. here some specifications. rolli Surface Hardness: -- Stainless Stell 200-300 HV -- Galv. Pd/NI 550 HV -- Galv. Chrome 800 HV -- Brass 200-300 HV -- PVD - ZrN 2400 HV -- PVD - CrN 2100 + 400 HV _____________________________________________________________ Basis Material For Coatings: -- ABS - Synthetics -- Zinc Die-Cast -- Aluminium -- Stainless Steel -- Brass -- Titanium ______________________________________________________________ Applications: -- Cars - Interior / Exterior -- Door Fittings and Safety Engineering -- Sanitarian Fittings -- Door Intercom -- Mailboxes -- Furniture Fittings -- Electronic Components -- Medical Technology -- Dental Technics -- Hearing Aid Devices -- Optics -- Eye Glasses Frames -- Watches -- Watchbands -- Jewelry -- Lifestyle Products -- Accessories -- Writing Utensils -- Scissors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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