HauteHippie Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 I've seen it mentioned that the white dial VC Overseas is a fantasy rep. VC's website (which is very unverbose) on pictures black and silver (not available as a rep) versions. Yet, here, I see a white dial for sale from what appears to be a legit dealer: http://www.essentialwatches.com/listing_de...mp;itemID=10990 I'd certainly like to add a white dial watch to my collection, and the 1:1 VC Overseas is definitely on my shortlist anyhow. But fantasy reps aren't for me. Anyone know for sure on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 The silver dial is the white dial. Technically, the "Silver" dial is a white dial, but the difference is that it has a kind of glitter, some kind of iridescense, which seperates it from a flat white dial. In pictures, this iridescent effect is not captured, you have to go to a VC dealer to actually see this. I highly doubt the repmakers have imitated the depth of the genuine's dial. This is true for watches like the AP ROyal Oak as well, where I have a 15300 with a "White" dial, but it shimmers in the light like it was silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) The silver dial is the white dial. Technically, the "Silver" dial is a white dial, but the difference is that it has a kind of glitter, some kind of iridescense, which seperates it from a flat white dial. Interesting because the silver dial on vacheron-constantin.com looks very different than the white dial on that essential-watches website. Maybe it's just the lighting in the photos... So, anyhow, the question remains as to whether or not the replica white/silver dial is accurate or not. Any idea? Edited September 4, 2006 by chieftang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Interesting because the silver dial on vacheron-constantin.com looks very different than the white dial on that essential-watches website. It's difference in lighting/effects I guess, since VC only made two dials for the Overseas: Silverish-white and Black dial. Nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 It's difference in lighting/effects I guess, since VC only made two dials for the Overseas: Silverish-white and Black dial. Nothing else. OK, that makes sense. So is the replica white dial accurate, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 OK, that makes sense. So is the replica white dial accurate, then? Ask someone who owns it. I doubt that the replica makers have correctly imitated this effect. As far as I know, most people who bought this rep bought the black dial (please correct me if I'm wrong). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashwatch Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 hmm, looking at my pic.. i would say that it does have a bit of sliverish tint.. but i agree with thomasng that most people do buy the black dial.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) Sach's pic looks pretty dang close to this pic of the gen to me (dial wise anyhow). Being the picky bastard that I am, I just gotta wonder if there's a rep out there with a slightly bigger cross under the 12. Edited September 4, 2006 by chieftang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4fun Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Sach's pic looks pretty dang close to this pic of the gen to me (dial wise anyhow). Being the picky bastard that I am, I just gotta wonder if there's a rep out there with a slightly bigger cross under the 12. Logo shape is a well-known flaw for this model ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Logo shape is a well-known flaw for this model ! Yea. We need a bigger and better cross on that dial!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Replace the smaller crown on this 42mm version with the larger cross on the last 40mm version. I have not done it myself but another forum member has said he did it. On the white/silver version the rep dial is excellent and very close to the gen. I went to an AD and compared. It does provide the similar "shimmer" effect and is a very unique dial. It is the same silver dial as the last 40mm version. The black dial is excellent as well. The one I have (from another forum member) came with both black and silver dial. Beyond the small cross and datewindow (which is off more in terms of shape than placement) it is an excellent rep. The case and bracelet is damn close to 1:1. I am reasonably picky and it is one that I would feel comfortable wearing anywhere other than a VC AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Replace the smaller crown on this 42mm version with the larger cross on the last 40mm version. I have not done it myself but another forum member has said he did it. On the white/silver version the rep dial is excellent and very close to the gen. I went to an AD and compared. It does provide the similar "shimmer" effect and is a very unique dial. It is the same silver dial as the last 40mm version. The black dial is excellent as well. The one I have (from another forum member) came with both black and silver dial. Beyond the small cross and datewindow (which is off more in terms of shape than placement) it is an excellent rep. The case and bracelet is damn close to 1:1. I am reasonably picky and it is one that I would feel comfortable wearing anywhere other than a VC AD. Thanks for the info, looks like I'll have to get the silver dialed one myself now. And just to note- I wore this rep into the VC boutique in Hong Kong about a month ago just for kicks, and the staff didn't notice anything, they just said "That's a nice watch you have already", and showed me any other VC's my heart desired. Never got called out once by other owners or watch dealers. I think we may be overestimating the ability of ADs to pick out reps. BTW: I doubt that putting the crown from the 40mm version on the newer one is going to work. Remember the 40mm version had a pull-out crown and this one finally has the correct screwdown crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 My bad. I didn't mean crown. The crown is close enough. I meant the cross on the dial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Darn it, I'm such an idiot, should have figured that one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 kruzer... The more you talk about this one, the more tempted I become in getting one. DAMN YOU!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Ubi- This one is truly top of the line. The dial and the finish is truly beautiful. Although it will never measure up to the gen (because they never do), I would prefer the 2006 rep to earlier Overseas gens. It is a much more unique watch. By the way, if you decide it is a must have and are selling something... let me know. I am loving my DW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linder Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 If you are looking for a mod, Silix will sell you the old dial with the correct cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Ubi- This one is truly top of the line. The dial and the finish is truly beautiful. Although it will never measure up to the gen (because they never do), I would prefer the 2006 rep to earlier Overseas gens. It is a much more unique watch. By the way, if you decide it is a must have and are selling something... let me know. I am loving my DW. Thanks for sealing the deal kruzer. I don't think I'll be too picky about the cross on the dial because the date font is never gonna get fixed anyhow. If you are looking for a mod, Silix will sell you the old dial with the correct cross. On second thought, maybe I will be picky about that cross. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Just make sure you only want the cross as the old dial is for a 40mm versus the current 42mm but that is still a great offer from Silix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linder Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 and at a great price too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashwatch Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 btw, i was looking thru my annual watch 2005.. and this is what i found white dial does exist.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 btw, i was looking thru my annual watch 2005.. and this is what i found white dial does exist.. Yes it does. And I asked the online VC dealer about it, too. They said that white dial looks much more silverish in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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