DuDro Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Hey there PAM experts! I need some help in identifying this PAM 127 "Fiddy"... The movement is stamped ETA 6497-1 underneath the brass wheel. The front glass is sapphire. Aside from this, I don't remember which version this is. It's been "stuck" in my watch box for far too long, and I'm not sure if I should keep it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsal Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I am no expert, but lume colour is correct white, swiss 6497 no longer available, it is a keeper, maybe an older dsn with swiss or some of high modders VAC? LH? EL?. Again I am newbie and not an expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utheman Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I think you ought to send it to me so I can have a closer look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesd Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I think that is an old school EL front load. However the hands look better than the EL hands that shipped with that watch, so it may be a DSN? Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Thanks for the initial feedback guys! Let's see if any other PAM experts can chime in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 DSN Fiddy, mate. The dial, the hands and the very badly distorted xtal all point to the fact. Also, he was one of the very few from GZ that was offering his Fiddy with 3rd gen E-series ETA6497-1 mov't. The case is good though, and again points to his Fiddy from mid to late 2009, before the cases with incorrectly shaped (blunt) corners started flodding the market. The dial txt while light gray it' still closer to the real deal than the recent Fiddy rep dials with beige/light brown txt. It's a nice Fiddy nevertheless, however I'd put it into a 'middle of the road' category, IMO. I owned this rep Fiddy model as well, as part of my 5 Fiddy binge madness during the last 4-5 years, sold all but one. cheers, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 DSN Fiddy, mate. The dial, the hands and the very badly distorted xtal all point to the fact. Also, he was one of the very few from GZ that was offering his Fiddy with 3rd gen E-series ETA6497-1 mov't. The case is good though, and again points to his Fiddy from mid to late 2009, before the cases with incorrectly shaped (blunt) corners started flodding the market. The dial txt while light gray it' still closer to the real deal than the recent Fiddy rep dials with beige/light brown txt. It's a nice Fiddy nevertheless, however I'd put it into a 'middle of the road' category, IMO. I owned this rep Fiddy model as well, as part of my 5 Fiddy binge madness during the last 4-5 years, sold all but one. cheers, b Wow...thanks for the knowledge dump! Now...do I keep it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Babola has it exactly right. One of DSN's better Fiddy's. Unless you stumble upon an Eddie Lee this is about as good as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Now...do I keep it? Hmm, if you asked me this few weeks ago I'd say - keep it for sure, as there's hardly any possibility of sourcing something better as-new in the future, except if you're lucky to find a nice old second hand EL Fiddy as W pointed out above. However the recent rumors are that the Cartel is building a new 127 Fiddy, to be released after 2011 Chinese New Year. This one has reportedly being copied from the 'gen-in-hand'. It's yet to be seen, but the fact that its being made by the same maker of the A7753 Daylights, it sounds promising. Either or, I'd still keep that movement. It's a proven workhorse, it uses Swiss ETA as a base, and the bridge decoration is little better compared to previously released ETA-based E-series mov'ts. Also, according to the latest update from DSN, the E-series ETA6497 mov'ts aren't available any more. cheers, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Again...thanks for all the great feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swat_nong Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hmm, if you asked me this few weeks ago I'd say - keep it for sure, as there's hardly any possibility of sourcing something better as-new in the future, except if you're lucky to find a nice old second hand EL Fiddy as W pointed out above. However the recent rumors are that the Cartel is building a new 127 Fiddy, to be released after 2011 Chinese New Year. This one has reportedly being copied from the 'gen-in-hand'. It's yet to be seen, but the fact that its being made by the same maker of the A7753 Daylights, it sounds promising. Either or, I'd still keep that movement. It's a proven workhorse, it uses Swiss ETA as a base, and the bridge decoration is little better compared to previously released ETA-based E-series mov'ts. Also, according to the latest update from DSN, the E-series ETA6497 mov'ts aren't available any more. cheers, b Hi B, I'm new here. I want to get 127 with Swiss Movt. Do you have link to get to the Cartel? Thanks alot. Sawat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Sawat, Have you tried looking under the "Watches, Clothing, & Accessories" section on the forum. All the "cartel dealers" have a section there. You can find lots of information there. Hi B, I'm new here. I want to get 127 with Swiss Movt. Do you have link to get to the Cartel? Thanks alot. Sawat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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