gran Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 CHOPARD MILLE MIGLIA GRAN TURISMO XL 168997-3001 The Mille Miglia (Thousand Miles) was an open-road endurance race which took place in Italy twenty-four times from 1927 to 1957. Like the older Targa Florio and later the Carrera Panamericana, the MM made Gran Turismo (Grand Touring) sports cars like Alfa Romeo, BMW, Ferrari, Maserati and Porsche famous.http://www.chopard.com/en/classicracing/millemiglia/mille-miglia-gran-turismo-xl-168997-3001.aspx#/en/product/168997-3001/Details of genuine: Also Called: 168997, 16-8997, 16/8997-3001, 168997R. Series Case Material: Stainless Steel Dial Color: Midnight Black Movement: Automatic C.O.S.C. Engine: Chopard Cal. 7111, 24 jewels, 28,800 vph, 16½ ''' (37mm), base ETA Valgranges A07.111 Functions: Hours, Minutes, Center Seconds, Date Crystal Material: Sapphire - Scratch ResistantCase Diameter: 44.0 mm Case Thickness: 14.25 mm Caseback: Sapphire Crystal Display Back showing guilloche rotor and movement Bezel Material: Stainless Steel Bezel Function: FixedMass: 146.0 g Water Resistance: At most 100m (suitable for swimming and shallow snorkeling; unsuitable for diving)Crown Material: Stainless Steel, Screw-locked, 8mm diameter Calendar: Automatic large magnified date at 3 o'clock Power Reserve: 46-hour power reserve Watch Bracelet / Strap Material: Dunlop-tread Rubber Watch Clasp Material: Double-locking foldover Max Wrist Size: 8.5 inches Watch Bracelet Width: 21.5 mm Some Genuines have L.U.C. stamped on them and some do not. Presume L.U.C is used to indicate use of an in house movement and largely unmodified ETA when not. Only the L.U.C movements have CHOPARD in a square on the midpart of the rotor.GENUINE http://watchesdb.com/inf/6537-chopard_mille_miglia_xl_gran_turismo_stainless_steel_black_dial_ref168997___3001.html Notiice this gen caseback woth 50 meters and no LUCMy REPLICAOrigin: This came originally from andrew but I bought it from a forum memberSpecifications from dealer CP10008 Gran Tourismo XL SS Black Asia Eta Valgranes A07.111 Superb lumed, Asian Valgranges A07.111, Automatic, 28.000bph Black BIG Date wheel-Correct Magnification, Diameter 44mm X 15mm thk AR coated, water resistant, Fragrant impregnated rubberConclusions:1. Very similar fell and look to the genuine in all aspects but some details on the movement 2. Centre of rotor is different on replica (asian bearing on rotor is easy for an expert to spot)and also the regulator differ in the way all asian "7750" clones do. Genuine has inscriptions such as serial number on main plate of movement. 3. Movement is correct size diametre as it is the Asia Valgranges A07.111 copy that is suprisingly similar to the genuine valgrange ETA in many aspects 4. Lume is impressive for a replica (sorry no picture) 5. AR is sufficient 6. Crown has the correct writing of 1000 miglia but is less clear than on the genuine 7. The replica is copying an early version of the genuine as the caseback does not say L.U.C. and is water resistant to 50m and writing on rotor differ on the L.U.C. version (but this difference can be seen on genuines casebacks also so its a bit confusing) Final: This is an extremely beautiful and yet uncomplicated watch that can be worn anytime and anywhere. The large size gives it presence. A very good replica that will be difficult to spot by most watch owners. Other people have also made more detailed reviews of this replica and versions of it:http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/chopard-gtxl-full-review-plus-23994.html?t=23994&highlight=GTXL%20full%20review%20comprotaiji review of this watch and its versions on RWI is excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Another great review Gran! That watch is really starting to grow on me I wish it was available with the SS bracelet though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Another great review Gran! That watch is really starting to grow on me I wish it was available with the SS bracelet though Me too...but i think it is possible if one gets this replica of the Chopard - Mille Miglia GT XL Power Control and just steal the SS bracelet off of it??? It might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Great review Gran... Very informative and a wonderful professional Layout... Looks like a pro job! And I am glad to see you have returned to RWG, we missed you! MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Great review Gran... Very informative and a wonderful professional Layout... Looks like a pro job! And I am glad to see you have returned to RWG, we missed you! MM Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathieu Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Hi, There is a lot of movements for this replica. Is "Asia Eta Valgranes A07.111" the best one? Tks, Mathieu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Hi, There is a lot of movements for this replica. Is "Asia Eta Valgranes A07.111" the best one? Tks, Mathieu I find it to be. yes Not sure what swiss movement options have been offered, but swiss would be more reliable. Obviously the best is to put a genuine Eta Valgranes A07.111 into it but probably that is way too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpohl402 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Great review Gran, and a lovely watch - thanks for sharing! So, is the Asian A07.111 different or the same as the Asian 7750 that typically comes in these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Great review Gran, and a lovely watch - thanks for sharing! So, is the Asian A07.111 different or the same as the Asian 7750 that typically comes in these? asian a07.111 and a 07.211 are Valgranges size = larger diametre but still an asian 7750 clone in terms of working parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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