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fiddy crystal in 203 case?


deltatahoe

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hi guys,

i was wondering if anybody has ever tried fitting a 203 case with an upgraded sapphire crystal. i was thinking about trying the davidsen fiddy crystal, but when i emailed joshua he mentioned the 203 is from a different maker than the 127 and he wasn't sure if it would fit...

he also mentioned he could sell me a fiddy case w/ sapphire crystal; any thoughts on whether the 203 dial & movement would fit in the fiddy case without major modifications?

anybody have any thoughts / suggestions on this?

let me know...

deltatahoe

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@deltatahoe: Fiddy's sapphire crystal fits in the 203. I did it. I got that crystal from a member and I do not know where he did take it from, though.

@tourbillon 1801: Joshua advertises all his 203 as with black dial.

The only one who advertises a brown dial 203 is Andrew. I asked him, and he replied he has not that model anymore and it is out of production.

I might have found another possible source for the last pieces available w/ brown dial. But considering what happened to me with an Angelus movement that I found on the bay, I'm not going to reveal my source (if ever) until I'll have the watch in my hands.

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@deltatahoe: Fiddy's sapphire crystal fits in the 203. I did it. I got that crystal from a member and I do not know where he did take it from, though.

@tourbillon 1801: Joshua advertises all his 203 as with black dial.

The only one who advertises a brown dial 203 is Andrew. I asked him, and he replied he has not that model anymore and it is out of production.

I might have found another possible source for the last pieces available w/ brown dial. But considering what happened to me with an Angelus movement that I found on the bay, I'm not going to reveal my source (if ever) until I'll have the watch in my hands.

best whishes with your angelus project. Nice to see pics soon.

i would love this brown dial, but no one can get it :wounded1:

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i would love this brown dial, but no one can get it :wounded1:

Well, I just ordered two pieces instead of one. If they both arrive and are as expected, and if by chance you happen to have two movements, we might think about an arrangement of some kind... :D :D :D :D :D :D

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I'm also thinking of the AR upgrade. The brown dial was only available on the 6497 movement, the auto rep of the 203 is much better because of the sub-dial spacing (almost exactly the same as an Angelus 240 - ie. a perfect project!), so the numbers look closer. Also, the dial was too brown, it should be a desaturated tobacco shade - if I can get hold of a supply of auto dials for a Panerai, I'm thinking of getting them reprinted to the correct colour and design... it'd look so much better!

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@sssurfer, no love for the opening poster? :wounded1:

Sure, I'll love anyone :wub: who can provide me with an SF240 -- or even just a decent replacement to mod to resemble the real thing.

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I'm also thinking of the AR upgrade. The brown dial was only available on the 6497 movement, the auto rep of the 203 is much better because of the sub-dial spacing (almost exactly the same as an Angelus 240 - ie. a perfect project!), so the numbers look closer. Also, the dial was too brown, it should be a desaturated tobacco shade - if I can get hold of a supply of auto dials for a Panerai, I'm thinking of getting them reprinted to the correct colour and design... it'd look so much better!

Hi Ross

but you think the case auf asian auto 203 will fit for angelus? They are the same case like unitas but with movement inner ring? Or this case are special made for asian auto movement? A case for asian auto movement will not fit for angelus.

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Hi Ross

but you think the case auf asian auto 203 will fit for angelus? They are the same case like unitas but with movement inner ring? Or this case are special made for asian auto movement? A case for asian auto movement will not fit for angelus.

The Asian Auto cases are pretty horrible anyway - especially if you're going to the lengths of putting a 240 in there! An E0117 case with display back, AR sapphire etc. would be the only way to go. I was just illustrating the point that the auto dial is much closer to an Angelus than a unitas is, and therefore in my opinion it looks much nicer. The movement ring is plastic, and the movement is tiny - an Angelus would need the 36.5mm inner diameter, it looks like this would have to be custom made from steel stock. Go on Tourby, you know you want to make a perfect 203!

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The Asian Auto cases are pretty horrible anyway - especially if you're going to the lengths of putting a 240 in there! An E0117 case with display back, AR sapphire etc. would be the only way to go. I was just illustrating the point that the auto dial is much closer to an Angelus than a unitas is, and therefore in my opinion it looks much nicer. The movement ring is plastic, and the movement is tiny - an Angelus would need the 36.5mm inner diameter, it looks like this would have to be custom made from steel stock. Go on Tourby, you know you want to make a perfect 203!

Hi Ross

i don

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  • 4 weeks later...

Ok, I received one of the two 203 w/ brown dial that I ordered and I may confirm it is as expected. Brown dial actually.

So, to anyone interested, the source is:

tonyxkf (from HK).

Email: tonyxkf@hotmail.com

You may see his pieces and prices on CQout (but he prefers to get in touch via email).

The 203 is at:

http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=2536174

at a very convenient price.

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thanks sssurfer. are you planning on putting an AR coated fiddy crystal in this watch by any chance? would be good to confirm if this would work with this particular 203 case.

Uhm... I actually plan to transplant the brown dial into the whole case+movement+crystal ensemble of my current 203 (that already has a sapphire crystal).

I just have some doubts about the placement of the small second hand, as I heard it could be not exactly the same in the manual and the auto movement.

At a first look it looks the same, though.

I think I'll submit the matter to my watchsmith then I'll decide...

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