yellomen Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I am amazed that of all the flaw fixes on quite expensive models (HBB etc.) they can't make a correct dial for the PAM104 and PAM220... the "swiss made" is underneath the 6 and should be "swiss 6 made"... so around the 6. This is a model that can sell big time... expect for this dumb flaw.... Please dear dealers... make me the correct dial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi yellomen, maybe you swapped the things? Or my poor English prevented me from getting it? The correct writing is "L SWISS MADE L", while the uncorrect one is "L SWISS 6 MADE L". Incidentally, the less expensive asian 21J 104 from Josh (108 USD) has a correct dial, while the most expensive 7750 version has the uncorrect one. I got that cheap 104 and got satisfied. It has awesome overall look, good out-of-the-box lume, decent cyclops, and it keeps great time. Rather, its flaws are the date font (I came to change the datewheel), a caseback with a fancy "diver's professional" writing, and a brushed-instead-of-polished case (that I love very much, though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattheis Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I was looking at this one also, but something I just noticed comparing the two as seen on josh's page, the 21j ($108) has a closed "6" and the 7750 has an open "6". Which one is correct?...Looking for a gen pic now. I noticed the different "L..L" but not the actual #... Strange. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannou Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I was looking at this one also, but something I just noticed comparing the two as seen on josh's page, the 21j ($108) has a closed "6" and the 7750 has an open "6". Which one is correct?...Looking for a gen pic now. I noticed the different "L..L" but not the actual #... Strange. M You can find it on the official website of Officine Panerai...Luminor Base Automatic... L SWISS MADE L without the number between Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellomen Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 maybe you swapped the things? Or my poor English prevented me from getting it? The correct writing is "L SWISS MADE L", while the uncorrect one is "L SWISS 6 MADE L". Yes... i mixed them... my mistake The PAM104 should have a closed 6, polished case, no "diver's professional" on the caseback... I hope they will correct this error... it's nothing too serious... just two little misprints... The "swiss 6 made" and the "open 6". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I just noticed ... the 21j ($108) has a closed "6" and the 7750 has an open "6". Which one is correct? The PAM104 should have a closed 6... F, G and H series: open 6. E and I series: closed 6. On the net I also saw a pic of a gen 104I that had an open 6. We may suppose that some early pieces of the I series have been made with dials remaining from the H series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellomen Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 F, G and H series: open 6. E and I series: closed 6. On the net I also saw a pic of a gen 104I that had an open 6. We may suppose that some early pieces of the I series have been made with dials remaining from the H series. Man... you really dug into it!! Thanx for the info So the fix is actually quite easy... now waiting if one of the dealers picks this up. I mailed one of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 now waiting if one of the dealers picks this up. I mailed one of them... Very interesting! Should you have any news from the dealer about this subject please let me know. The 104 is one of my most favourite models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 There's no reason why some factory couldn't do a perfect 104-- good font Dw's for the A7750, and good magnification systems already exist on other 44mm reps, & the good dial already exists. All they would have to do is put those parts together and fix the caseback. We could take care of the crown, which they will never get right. I'm afraid that that would never occur to a repmaker--that level of detail is under their radar unless they try for it from the get-go, like on the HBB and Couteau Diver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Just love the search-button Is there already a better version out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Just love the search-button Is there already a better version out? No but you can expect something soon... or later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 No but you can expect something soon... or later... And then together with the PAM0164 it will be released as super reps with perfect dials, cyclopses, date wheels and sapphire glass with strong AR..... I wish, though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellomen Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 ... or later... this will probably be the reality... Angus told me that the GMT northpole (forgot the number) won't be produced anymore because all the A7750 with GMT function are going to other watches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Just love the search-button Is there already a better version out? Well, that version is certainly better, but a little too rich for my blood... I was just looking at my 50 before reading this thread. Makes me wondfer why they did an excellent 40mm auto years ago (decent dial, random #'d caseback, good date font, accurate spring loaded crown, excellent fit and finish on the case & guard) and not a 44mm to this day. Maybe they didn't know at the time that 44mm PAMs, rep and gen, outsell 40mm by probably 6 to1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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