bubba Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Hello people, I am new at posting here, so a big hello to everyone. There are alot of experts in this forums good at spotting the fakes and with a wealth of knowledge about watches. I need help. I was wondering if the watch, i have hopefully attached, is: 1.Real or fake? 2. what model is it (Pam 126?) 3. If it is real is it worth 5k? 4. What would the retail have been? Any info would be most appreciated and could possibly save me alot of money. I do love the watch though. I am thinking of buying it and it is being auctioned by a local gallery for an estimated 4k-6k + 19% buyers fee + 8% sales tax. How high should I bid, or should I run for the Hills.Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 If it is 40mm, it may be a genuine 125 (126 is the bracelet model). Just a bit dubious about the crown. The crown of 40mm models is thinner than that of 44mm models, but this looks with a too wide room between the crown and the crown guard... Any other info (millesimation, numbers on the caseback, etc)? Price of the 125 was 4900 USD in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted December 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 This is the description I have been given: Panerai Men's Stainless Steel Luminor Automatic "Power Reserve" Leather Strap Wristwatch, circa 2003 Case: 45 mm, cushion-shaped, brushed stainless steel beveled polished bezel, protective bridge over crown, screw back cover, water resistant to 300 meters, signed Officinie Panerai Firenze 1860 Automatic OP 6575 PB 508174 F0616/2100 Dial: black with luminous Arabic numeral at twelve and six and "Baton" hour indexes, luminous "Baton" hour and minute hands, powere reserve semi-dial at six indicating hours up to forty, auxiliarly silver seconds dial at nine, sunken date aperture at three with magnifier, sapphire crystal with anti-reflective coating, signed Luminor Panerai Automatic Swiss Made Movement: automatic Band: black leather strap stamped Officine Panerai/Panerai Italy, completed by a stainless steel buckle and tang, marked Panerai; 9 inches overall length Signed: dial, movement, case, strap and buckle signed Panerai Note: watch is presented in its original wooden display box with tag, manual, polishing cloth and outer box Estimate: $4,000 - $6,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Definitely gen (the pic). Not a 45mm case, though. Phony description. As for the thin crown, I can believe it. It's probably an E series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Decided: to me, it is a genuine 125F (E series was made in 1500 pieces, not 2100). Numbers do match. Besides of that, this model has not been repped so far (as far as I know). Agree with chieftang about the case size: misdescription. Maybe the seller included the CG. Honest price, but not the deal of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted December 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Thanks for your info and help. I guess its not too great of a deal then. I have sold several watches to finance my desire for 1 real pam, and I really liked this one. So the case on this one is 40mm with a 5mm CG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted December 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Case is definitely 40mm. And CG is very close to 5mm (maybe 5.5). And, as an RWG supporter, you are always welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Definitelly gen. And the pic is a catalogue photo, where most of the 40mm autos look like they come with thinenr crown than it really is. cheers, babola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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