dsp5500 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Is the OP I Movement used in the Luminor Base models a 6497 or a 6497-2 ? I cant find a definitive answer to this. Cheers, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 From the link below... http://www.paneristi.com/reference/vendome/mvmt/op1.html ...it states that a 6497 movement is used. I'm assuming the the difference between the 6497 and the 6497-2 is that the former lacks the seconds hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsp5500 Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Yes Thats where I was researching and it got me thinking that the base models use the 6497. But it also states that the base 6497 runs at 21,600 VPH which as far as i know would mean the OP I is a 6497-2 ? Still confused !! Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Ignore what I wrote earlier Think DuDro has it nailed - the difference between OPI and OPII is that OPII has a second hand wheel and COSC certification. Still think they are both 21.6KBPH - be that beefed up 6497-1 or 6497-2 ....this artical sheds some light on early movements used ... http://www.paneristi.com/archives/PreA_Pan..._A_Panerai.html FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Ignore what I wrote earlier Think DuDro has it nailed - the difference between OPI and OPII is that OPII has a second hand wheel and COSC certification. Still think they are both 21.6KBPH - be that beefed up 6497-1 or 6497-2 ....this artical sheds some light on early movements used ... http://www.paneristi.com/archives/PreA_Pan..._A_Panerai.html FGD Both OPI and OPII have second "wheel" or gear, it's just that on OPI the second hand pin is shortened or clipped, but still left long enought to sit properly inside the jewel on the base plate (dial side). If you remove the sec hand gear the watch wouldn't work You're correct, they're both 21.6kbph, ETA/Soprod 6497-2 mov'ts. cheers, babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Both OPI and OPII have second "wheel" or gear, it's just that on OPI the second hand pin is shortened or clipped, but still left long enought to sit properly inside the jewel on the base plate (dial side). If you remove the sec hand gear the watch wouldn't work You're correct, they're both 21.6kbph, ETA/Soprod 6497-2 mov'ts. cheers, babola Cheers Babola......you do sum it up more articulately and knowledgably....... removing 4th wheel gears.....oh yeah ...that would work !!???! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The preV (pre Vendome) watches which include the 5218/201A logo, 202A etc used the original slow-beat 6497 as the base movement, but the first of the Swiss (Vendome), preA watches used the 6497-2 higher-beat movements. However the preA movements were decorated in a style very similar to the cdg decorated 6497-1 which is currently available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 The preV (pre Vendome) watches which include the 5218/201A logo, 202A etc used the original slow-beat 6497 as the base movement, but the first of the Swiss (Vendome), preA watches used the 6497-2 higher-beat movements. However the preA movements were decorated in a style very similar to the cdg decorated 6497-1 which is currently available. Still a point of contention amongst gen pre-V owners, many believe pre-V's came as 6497-2 in 21.6kbph flavor, but there's a good deal of those that believe it's a slower 18kbph...hard to say really unless you open one and check the number stamp. cheers mate, babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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