bruce79 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I've got a 7753 powered 188 with a small issue and need a little insight. First please excuse me if my watch vernacular is a bit off, I'll try to explain the situation the best I can... Ok, so after first receiving the watch I pull the crown out to adjust the time which was fine...the when pushing the crown back in, I couldn't get the stem to engage with the movement...so the watch wouldn't run...as if it was still in the time setting position. As you know, the crown seems to have a spring which pushes it out when the crown guard lever is released....so there is no need to pull the crown out like for the manual wind pams. Well when I pushed the crown in against the spring pressure, nothing happened and it just bounced back out and was still in the time setting position...after about 5 minutes of trying, all of a sudden it engaged and started running fine. Didn't really think much of it once it started working. So, the same thing happened Saturday when I put the watch on again to go out that evening. So I thought it best to remove the case back, crown guard, and to remove the crown/stem and reinsert to see if I could figure out what was going on. Well once those cg & case back were removed, I grasped the crown with my finger tips pulling ever so slightly and went to slowly push the stem release button but to my amazement, the stem just released with very little pulling pressure...and without even pushing the stem release button. The stem reinserts fine to the wind position but when I attempt to pull it out to set the time, it just comes completely out of the movement with relative ease. It's not locked in the movement like with all of my ETA autos. My question is then, what exactly is going on here? This is my first chrono so perhaps they behave differently from the standard non chrono autos. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porsche356a Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Sounds like the Keyless Works is out of whack. I think someone had taken the stem out in the time setting position (not saying it was you, Bruce ). Rob will enlighten us on how to fix this dilemma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Well it wasn't me...lol...I've uncased several dozen watches and have always paid mind to the keyless works...I'm anal about that. I'm hoping Zig will chime in and hopefully sort it out somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 The first thing I would do is to make sure the stem is not cut too short. You can do this one of two ways, first you need another stem, perferably a new one that is not cut down. Insert this stem into the movement with it in the case and see if it locks in place. If you don't have a new stem, then the only way to eliminate the stem as being the problem is to remove the movement from the case and insert the existing stem and crown into the movement and see if it locks in place. If it locks in place then you know the stem is too short. The keyless works on the 7750 is well made and not a problem like the 2836, so the first step is to confirm that the keyless works is working correctly and you can lock the stem in place. To do this you need to eliminate the stem as being the cause of your problem. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Great, I'll give that a go when I get home tonight. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Well, I uncased the movement and tried to insert the stem and get it to lock...with no luck. The stem will not lock into place and pulls out of the movement with relative ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Then you have to take the dial and hands off and see what the problem is with the set lever and keyless works. Since this is a 7753 I caution you to not take it apart unless you are very confidant in your skills. The 7753 is much more of a challenge to work on than a 7750, and there are NO Spare parts available...you break something the movement is junk. I have one 7753 in the shop that Finepics ruined, and I can't fix it due to no spare parts available... RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I will definitely not be opening/taking this movement apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I have one 7753 in the shop that Finepics ruined, and I can't fix it due to no spare parts available... RG I guess he should have stuck with taking pictures... Just trying to bring some levity to this situation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owdeguy Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 The Zigmeister, If you need a 7753 let me know, I have a spare that I have nothing to put into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Ziggy, If you need a 7753 let me know, I have a spare that I have nothing to put into. It's actually Kruzer's watch, you may want to contact him and see if he's interested. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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