Guest pamfried Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Am on a trade with a member here... He sent me this 187 and says that its the 1st generation Honpo187. Left of all picts is his 187, the ones on the right and with strap is my actual honpo187. Seller requests that i post these for members to verify. Thanks. Other things, his 187 quick date set button at 10 cant be pressed down like my honpo. AR not as strong as my honpo. Pls advise if this is indeed a 1st generation honpo187. If it really is, my sincere apologies to the seller. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I would say at a quick glance No. Needs a bit of work as well but you know that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pamfried Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) yes i know the movt is conked out... but with the secs hands flying around wasn't something i expected.... and not mentioned by the seller was that the cg hole connected to the case is stripped.... Edited May 21, 2008 by pamfried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ta8088 Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 A couple things on this one look alot like the EL 187 that I just got. Could this be one of the EL 187's as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pamfried Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 A couple things on this one look alot like the EL 187 that I just got. Could this be one of the EL 187's as well? Bro, you mind posting some picts of yours? Or send them to my email..... need to get this trade sorted out... Seller INSISTS that its a 1st generation honpo187.. Kruzer, hope you can chim in here too...... Dluddy, this is the honpo we were talking about sometime ago.. Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nikos1978 Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 PLEASE put more clear photo of panerai he val and if see you will see double ar-coating which no el version have and you will SEE THE BEST CROWN GUARD THAT EL VERSION DOES NOT HAVE ALSO IF PUT photo of the back you will see the caseback whixh is the same with honspo187 case more photo please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Unless '1st generation' Honpos were simply regular reps I would seriously doubt that this watch's provinence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pamfried Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 As requested by the seller, picts of the caseback. left and top is his 187. Crown shot: Its just different.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 In truth I get confused by the pics and my Honpo (which has now been converted into a 7753) is the actual one that Eddie used for comparison purposes. As far as I know based on conversations with a Honpo person who spoke English they only authorized a run of 150 and less were made. So any case number substantially higher is at a minimum not a Honpo caseback. Also the Honpo does not, to the best of my knowledge have a depressable date setter. It is one piece and I learned it the hard way as I have to manually set my 7753 date by toggling the hands back and forth around midnight. It is all one piece. The bezel on the honpo is also substantially thicker and more detailed in the teeth area and clanks around like a tank. The bezel markers on the honpo also have no slope into the bezel. They just sit on it like separate slabs. Here are a bunch of pics to further confuse the issue. My Honpo 7753 conversion: Honpo 7750 versus stock 187 7753 with inferior case (and eveyrthing else): I just looked again at the pictures. I would guess his is a first generation Honpo. I am still trying to figure out what your is and am very jealous of the functioning date setter. Want to swap cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 some of the honpo pics form his other site...etaworldgoods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I bought both of those versions for a colleague. You're both right. Those are 2 completely different watches. Nikos sold you a 1st gen honpo. I believe paul sold sold a version of the honpo that was slightly different from eddie's. As you can tell from kruzer's pics neither one is the latest version sold by king and others, which is also available in swiss 7753. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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