roflwaffle

The consensus from insiders is that even if there isn't a movement shortage or pressure from ETA, there it does appear to be possible that the rep "industry" may be trying to exploit the ETA news for profit or otherwise bring the copies into full swing to eliminate dedendence on Swiss movements altogether

I would strongly agree that is a good possibility.

let me pose a new question: What does everyone think about the China copies?

hit or miss. 6497 is pretty rock solid, seagull does a pretty good job with em. (or is it PTS-Hangzhou? I think one does the lowbeat, one does the highbeat, or maybe im just making up things right now)

the 2824 CN copies are pretty high quality, at least some of em out there..

Still not sold on the a7750, had more problems than most people though... luck of the draw i guess. but what do i know, im just teh newb.

Anyway regarding the ETA issue at large in terms of supply these are my dealer's thoughts: The ebauche changes are affecting the whole industry in that since those are going away, companies who only need those now will now buy whole movements instead which puts pressure on supply. Makes sense right? Therefore there will be less complete movements in the supply chain to find their way to reps because they are being boughtas complete movements now and more so by 2010.

With all due respect, and full politeness...

Would not ETA just turn those ebauches into full movements?

say they make 10 million movements and 10 million ebauches per year right now. (They have a capactity to make 20million ebauches per year, along with parts for them..) they stop selling ebauches all together.. wouldnt their total output then realistically be more than 10 million movements per year? Not quite a full 20, but certainly close, right? It's not like they are going to slow production... those half movements will probably be finished into full ones, right?

Also, the many brands like hublot, panerai, etc going inhouse or to other companies in light of all this, that would mean the total demand would drop a little bit?

It is an interesting subject, and I'm not quite sure what is going to happen, but I'm just not quite so sure that ETA is going to drop their production down so much.

On a side note: is ETA then planning mass layoffs?

I just put this in my calendar. If no conflicts come up, I'll be there.

I'll be in attendance

Good thought. I guess you

And please delete this drawings... or we will have many dealers with this crown.

hrm.. just one page ago fish was saying this should be a community project with 'open source' plans.. yet some early designs were encouranged to be removed?

very strange mate. makes it hard for people to make suggestions if it is all clandestine..

It's actually not lost. Those of us who've read it have it upstairs.... And FWIW, as RWG Member 11010 having just joined a few months back, you can not and do not understand why these articles were removed in the first place. So your not so subtle inference is not only spurious but also out of line.

-Chief

I wasn't 'inferring' anything. I was saying it point blank. A great reference and addition to this site is gone. Full stop. He is free to do with his content as he choses (many forums have a 'posts submitted become property of said forum, but not this one), and I am free to respectfully ask that he reconsider (or apparently I am not).

As I've said before, I wish Zigg the best.

His movement reviews and basic watch info are still in the Wiki-section. Only the 'How To' manuals have been removed already months ago.

I was asking that in the sprit of sharing and helping out the forum that he restore them.

Just a request, no need to flame me, I just think it is a huge shame for such information to be lost due to the actions of a few individuals

removed apparently uncalled for sarcasm. apologies.

As a sad footnote; There are members on the Geeks right now who on seeing this thread are bowing to their God modder Flav, some will never learn because the choose not too.

While there are some on the geek who like Flav and see this as an attack, I think 90% of the thread was mildly respectful and discussing a completely separate matter. In fact, I think there was only like 1 post, and it said 'was this guy ripping on flav?' which i personally do not see as an attack.

No need to turn this into a board war, or explode this into something it is not.

RG mourns your leaving.

i think The Zigmeister's tutorials/reviews are in the Supporters section. Join and enjoy!!

I'm just going by him stating that he's removed all of them, so I assume they are gone from the supporters section as well

If he didn't remove them, then I'm afraid I dont know what hes talking about..

I have since deleted all my How-To posts, no reason to encourage more scammers on RWG.

Hi Zigg, I am sorry to see you go, and I completely understand about 90% of your post.

However, the act of removing all tutorials of yours...

Seems a shame to punish everyone for the (potential) acts of a few.

Anyway, I'm sad to see you leave, and wish you luck. but I mourn the loss of information on the forum.

hrm. did a search of bay in completed items, and i didnt see it

Guess I'll never know.

Yea, it was a pretty great time

Def. should do it again sometime guys. Keep me on the list

your strap on upside down?

looks great though