David74
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I found that article pretty interesting, so pasting it here... it really seems soon we will see repetition chinese watches as well...
http://www.tourbillonwatches.com/tourous-t...on-watches.html
PARIS: Four years ago Simon Lu, a Chinese-American businessman from California, attended a trade fair in Taipei. A watch lover and small-time collector, Lu found there exactly what he had been looking for: a Chinese tourbillon watch.
The tourbillon, a classic watchmaker's complication developed in the 18th century by Abraham-Louis Breguet, houses the central watch mechanism in a rotating cage to offset the distorting effects of gravity. Traditionally it is a feature found only in fine luxury timepieces.
Today Lu sells as many as five of the Chinese watches a month through his company, Tourous, buying from a supplier in Hong Kong and serving a worldwide market from the company's Web site, opened in 2003.
It takes as long as four months to hand-craft each watch, Lu said, and he follows the watches from conception to creation.
The watch cases are finely finished, with stylish hand engraving and sapphire crystal faces and backs that display the complex mechanisms.
But in China, skilled labor costs as little as $1.36 an hour, compared with as much as
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http://www.dentwatches.com/products/parlia...01-001-H01.html
I was looking for rep of this watch, hv u ever c it?
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seek reliable vendor with products of good quality ', I seek rolex asian eta movements and other replicas of good quality', to do business , I'm trying to buy 80-100 copies at a time, I want quality 'and prices for wholesale hello thanks
in italia la legge
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hahah real easy hit print screen on the web site then paste it in the basic windows paint.. crop it and save as a jepg..
simplez
thx buddy .. now i'm an expert
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the site works fine and I already placed an order
MBW/MBK photos do not load
is a pity he uses flashplayer to show his watches, cause is impossible to past the pics here and discuss of the reps
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It has nothing to do with whether they can or not. The fact is movement fabrication is not the same task as is the rest of the watch. Why do you think so many extremely well heeled watch companies use ebauches for most of their so called "in house" creations. Movement design and manufactory is a REALLY big deal. If it weren't why would Patek, Vacheron, AP, Breguet, and countless others use ebauches as a base for most of their releases? ETA, Lemaina, Piguet, JLC, Venus, Zenith, etc. It just isn't practical for a watch company to design and build all the bases they need for their lineup. It is just way to brutal to consider for most.
Neither a monkey or laborious Chinese can just replicate movements. It is not even remotely the same as doing watches. Plus there are no economies of scale. That is why 90% of reps are 7750's, 2836's, or 2824's - with most being 7750's these days. Only because they made one that they figured would cover a lot of ground. Even with the gen 7750 as a guide it was not a minor undertaking for them.
And if you like quarz more power to you. I come at reps from a different angle. I'm not into getting reps of watches I can't afford so I'll take what I can get with any movement. I am also not into flawless replications. I'm just looking for fine mechanical wristwatches. In most cases I buy reps to check them out to see if I like the design enough to add the gen to my collection. We are all a little different in our motivations my friend.
I don't like quartz because to me they represent the "other team" - the threat to the mechanical history in the interest of efficiency. I am in love with mechanical movements and the perfection of them through the ages. I start and end with that and the watch around it is secondary for me. I would rather have a rep of a $500 gen with a mechanical movement than a rep of a million dollar gen which is otherwise perfect but has a battery in it. Defeats the whole purpose for me...
about ur 1st statament is in my bealive outsourcing applies in any sector just cause is cheaper to make lets say cars part in china or east europe (like fiat alfa etc) cause the man power cost less
about the rest well, u say intelligent thingh so my hat off to u, i will think over what u told and likely i will end agreeing to all u said
rgds
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guy lets be serious
I also love mechanism
but I know I wont never be able to own a let say Planetarium of Nardin, not because is impossible to hv it replied mechanically (it is all matter of man-power/time, which chinese got, and them hv to invent nothingh they hv just to copy.. is enough to "order" a watch and send it back couse u didnt liked the "rose gold tone" after them copyed it out (is possible is just matter of time and pacience, my watchsmith can build microscopic wheels when missing by istance, the difficoult thingh was the ingenery part, but to copy I dont say monkeys can do it, but laborious chinese can))
We will never c such watch cause the effort to copy it is not (probabily) worth the return in cash
When there was a clear market desire chinese were able to copy the tourbillon (and I own couple of such watches) just to make an exemple
To come back to my point, I bealive that- speacking of REPLICAS - to have a minute repeater like the circous model, with the little figoures moving on the display, isnt an impossible task when u do it with quartz electric mechanism, the same applyes for The Freak model
when i buy an original i never consider the quartz mechanism, but for a replicas or to hv function i can not possibly afford, quartz is an option, and i bealive i'm not the only one ready to buy quartz ulysses nardin (not couse i love quarrtz, but couse i love those watches)
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I'm aware THE FREAK hv a state of the art mechanism, in fact i was googling for a replica of it with the same expectation sometimes i run far to where the rainbow starts to collect my promised gold.. anyhow about other Ulysse Nardin watches owning a Bulova millennium (minute repeater, alarm, perpetual calendar and gmt) not to mention the citizen campanola which didnt bought couse is otragous expensive to be a citizen (while the bulova is affordable as some of the best end reps) I feel the time was ready to hv some outstanding reps of the complicated watches out there, just wear off the darn mechanism of the bulova, or the cheaper citizen minute repeater eco-drive (another affordable option unlike the campanola) and u can get an acceptable rep of some of the nicest Ulysses out there... am I wrong? asking cause I'm a newby here (hv just few reps from Josh) and if u say what i told is a nonsense I'll quit to search and be waiting for such watches just for the peace of my mind
thx
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thanks everybody for the fast and kind answers... I'll save my bucks and I'll stay tuned here on rwg waiting for some good new (btw thx to u all I bought very fine replicas from the dealer you suggested as worth to trust... thank u 4 it as well...)
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Time after time I randomly search for an Ulysse Nardin replica of The Freak model
Today to my surprise, i dont only found that one sold as rep, but many other at that site
http://www.fashion163.com/Ulysse_Nardin_Fr...tch_020_81.html
Unfortunately the photos are clearly the "original" ones, and the description of the replica is nothingh but a cut and paste from the nardin website
Someone know that seller, or own one of his rep?
thx
David
Chinese watchmakers try their hand at grand complications
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in fact my tourbillon will come from Homer