longshot

Mine arrived yesterday and it's a stunner!

I spent what time I had last night polishing it and cleaning and oiling the bracelet (and putting Loctite on the screws) but will get some pics this weekend. The bracelet does appear to be diamond cut and the dial does have a silverish kind of sheen

Mine cleared US C*stoms today

Hopefully will be here tomorrow or Friday and I can give a hands on report

Look at Puretime's version

Correct VC logo and date window, along with correct placement of the markers!

But then they ****ed up the rehaut markings and the "Vacheron Constantin" font on the dial.

http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/pure.../OVERSEA%20NEW/

I agree the cross looks better and the trapezoid date wheel cut out is correct. But I am curious about the reasons for the six extra screws on the caseback? Ther are two near each lug instead of one and two by the crown. That seems odd?

I don't think there will be more versions. These are only medium sellers. Having said that, you can't get closer to a Gen than this.

Nitpikking is the specialty of the house, but you'd have to have them side by side and then STUDY them.

This is as good a rep as it gets. It's gonna fool the AD's . Just don't take it off your wrist.

My thoughts exactly, that's why I ordered one Sat night just after Joshua sent me a heads up

It appears to be almost as good, if not as good, as my FM Conquistador rep and I've worn that one in to 3-4 high end watch AD's and no one has ever questioned it.

I agree the Maltese Cross does not look perfect but to me the big plus of the newest version is that it appears thinner and more like the gen. I've only seen one gen Overseas and what appealed to me about it was that it was large at 42mm, but slim. The older version rep looks thicker and a bit clunkier (at least to me).

I ordered one from Joshua last night

It still has a few flaws, but since the chances of my running in to someone who has ever even seen a gen are almost zero I'm excited about this one! Between my white/siver dial FM Conquistador and this one, the 'dress watch' portion of my collection will be complete

First, I'd like to say that I am new around here and have become very interested in the hobby of reps. I also love the look of The Pan 111s, so I thought that should be my first purchase. However, I am begining to think that such a large watch would look goofy on my 6.25 inch wrist. I posted this to ask your opinions on whether or not my wrist is too small for the 111. If it is, any recommendation for another watch would be great.

My wrist is just under 7" or so.

Here's a wrist shot of a Pam111h on a (very beefy) Bob 24X24 strap

In America we pay prison guards more than school teachers, generally much more. Plus you don't even need a college degree to be a prison guard

Maybe that's why the high school drop out rate in increasing almost as fast as the percentage of young Americans in jail or on parole or probation?

Ten days ago I gassed up our Saab here in California for $2.69US a gallon. Yesterday it was $3.26US a gallon at the same station and the same pump.

Luckily I ride my bike to work most days, as does my wife

But hey, the Bush/Republicans are giving the oil companies big tax breaks so I'm sure the prices will come down soon

Joshua only has pics of the white dial SS Super Avenger with the Citizen quartz movement and after bugging him about the black a few times he sent me this pic

Yeah, it's only a quartz movement but since the sweep should only run while timing something, the step in the hand movement is not so noticable. Plus no Asian 7750 movement quality issues, and it's cheap too

I'm a bit worried about the size at 48mm, but can't help but think how cool it will look on a 24mm 2-piece Martac Zulu strap. As soon as the newest VC Overseas becomes available I'll be placing an order and I think I need one of these too!

I've been involved with the Burningman Project since 1998 or so (see link here http://www.burningman.com/ ). In 1999 I decided to volunteer as a Black Rock Ranger and since you can't have 8 guys named John talking on the radio in the middle of a white out in the desert at 3:00am with 35,000 freaks going off and flame and explosions everywhere Rangers have to have an individual 'call sign' that needs to be easy to understand on a radio.

I was kind of stumped for a call sign and went shooting one day with a bunch of the Rangers before the event, and I guess I impressed them with what a Steyr SSG can do to ferocious attacking grapefruit at 300-400m

Also since my initials are L.S. and to many of my friends it was an extreme 'long shot' that they would ever get me to actually go with them to the "freak fest in the desert ", when someone suggested 'longshot' I decided to go with it as my call sign and have used it on-line too ever since

Dang it looks like I won't be able to make it...

One of the knife/watch/gear forums I'm on is having their first ever Nor-Cal meet up that day and it's 6 blocks from my house. I'm commiteed to that one.

You all have a GREAT time

I own one, and it's a stunning watch in person. Much nicer then the pics

IMHO, it's a far better watch than a Sub (but I still love my Sub reps!). It's also much larger and heavier and the bracelet is a work of art in itself.

As far as Seiko divers all being Sub clones, [censored]

Here's a link to the site for Tokunaga-san who has designed all the serious Seiko dive watches for decades. Just take a look at some of the new technologies Seiko has brought out. The first titanium dive watch, the first quartz dive watch, the 'L-Shaped' gasket that allows 300m WR and greater without the need for an HE release valve etc:

http://www.tokunaga.ne.jp/en/museum/list.html

Here's a couple pics of some Seiko vintage divers from my collection

Great story!

I got in to reps because I had been lusting after a Pam for a long time and a friend who is in watchmakers school in Pennsylvania told me he sold his gen Pam to buy a rep, and showed me where to buy one

There is no way I would get enough extra enjoyment of of wearing a gen to justify even a fraction of the price difference!

What is the difference between trustywayguys rolex (BEST) MBW(where can you find them) and joshua rolex's im looking at getting a submariner two toned but blue face but dont want the band to turn my wrist colors it will be a daily wearing watch so i guess who carries the best rolex's i already bought a daytona just for show from joshua who has unbelievable customer service and i bought a pam from him to with a carbon face but the rolex hands don't sweep at all and i really want a sweeping rolex other than that the rolex is unbelievable and the pam is great joshua is the man but i need a daily watch for when i talk to clients. So your inputs would be great. I heard there is no more franken rolex's out there i heard they are unbelieveable (or very believeable) so anything help you can give me to support my addiction please help me out. Also where can i get a nice case to display all my watches and where can i get a watch winder sorry about the questions im kinda knew but eager to learn. I have a very busy schedule and not alot of time for research thanksa lot guys

Uh, you have a busy schedule and not a lot of time to research, but are buying a fake Rolex to see your clients?

First off, we all don't have the time to do your research for you. It's a hobby. Doing the research is part of the fun. If you are so busy and don't have time to do research on reps, then walk into an AD with your platinum card and buy a genuine

Second, even a cursory amount of critical thinking would tell you that; if one dealer had "the best Rolex" then we would all buy our watches from that one dealer and the others would be out of business.

Do some research. Find out at least what makes a second hand sweep, and that Rolex has no monopoly on a sweeping second hand. Then after doing some research so you have a clue what you are talking about, ask intelligent questions and anyone on any hobby forum will be willing to help you

Just can't seem to take this one off yet

The Kampfschwimmer dial was evidently used by the German military in WWII in some watches and has long been prized by collectors.

Bill Yao (who makes custom Seiko and ETA dials and hands and some custom mil-style watches) under the MK II label made a modern version a couple years ago that sold out instantly and is now impossible to find.

Personally I could take it or leave it

8 rep (+15 genuine) so lets call it =

610

Vintage Seamaster 300 (non-date)- an accurate rep with 2824 or 2892 movement. This should be easy and would sell so well.

Ditto here!

Or a Sinn 656 seems it would be soooooooooo easy to rep

I just received my SS Breitling Avenger Seawolf from Joshua today and it's an impressive beast

I realize there is go genuine SS Seawolf (and how many people really know that anyway?) but I generally don't like ti watches. I've had 7-8 and only the Japan market Citizen's with the Duratect coating have held up well at all. I don't mind scuffs and scratches on my ti bicycles or even my ti wedding band, but they bug me on watches!

Overall I'm very happy with the Seawolf and I've tightened the bezel screws and made sure all the bracelet screws are tight, but honestly the bezel feels like crap. It's tinny feeling and loose and I would almost worry about it coming off

Is this something our resident guru's can fix fairly easily?

Shadows of what it looks like threads to me, but I don't have my glasses on.

I'm very tempted by one of these, but I did receive an email from Andrew today and he say's that as far as he knows it does NOT have a screw down crown :yucky:

I hope he's wrong!

Michael Kobold is a spoiled rich kid whose father (a wealthy German industrialist, see Kobold Instruments) gave him a few million dollars to start a watch compeny. His father is also very close friends with Helmut Sinn.

When his watches were a reasonable value I owned one and it was nice enough. Then he more then doubled the prices in an effort to move upmarket, but did not change anything. They are just another ETA movement recased, at Rolex pricing.

He has also been arrested for impersonating a police officer and part of his 'tough guy' persona

Then he tried the 'Navy Seals', 'Mall Ninja' marketing ploy, which failed. Navy Seals wear G-Shocks as they can't afford $4000 watches!

But the best part to me is...

Look at the dial of the watch pictured. On his f'lagship' model Surveyor is MISSPELLED

THey were made aware of the problam and did not bother to fix it!!!!!!!!!

Maybe if the rep makers made one with CORRECT spelling on the dial I would buy the rep

New Pam111h that just arrived from Luckyyy yesterday!

For now on a BOB Antik brown buffalo 24X24 but waiting on a tan suede 24x24 'Historic' from DonG

I got the silver faced rep. from Joshua. I was just in Vegas and got to compare it to the genuine. It feels pretty much the same in terms of weight and bracelet quality. The crown is slightly different.

I've never seen a gen, but I also have the silver/white guilloche dial 2892 version from Joshua and it's the nicest rep I own. It's stunning and keeps COSC time.

I wore it into a Rolex, Breitling, Omega, Patek AD last weekend here in town and the salesmen were falling over themselves to show me gold Daytonas

I told them I was looking for stainless and would just get one on the web...

I'm in Sacremento too

East Bay would be better but I can work with SF too.

We had a Seiko/USN meet up at The 21st Amendment in SF that worked really well. As long as the Giants are out of town parking is not bad and they have an upstairs/loft area we could have to ourselves?

Lanny

I've been considering upgrading my 2836 Pam29 to the 2893 and have a price at just $500 shipped.

If we can do better I'm in...