iwan67

Got my Pam yesterday back from Panerai Service. The gap was closed, the watch was serviced. So i am quite pleased with the service! Thanks for reading; )

oh... Even if i am within 2 Year warranty? I mean they even say on their website, that the warranty covers "manufactury defects". So how can they sen me a bill for something that was wrong from the beginning? Otherwise it means, if i buy a new watch for $ i should take a magnifying glas to AD and spend big time checking if the watch has any flaws?

I think it's the sacrifice to the mass production. Sure, it's not possible to produce all watches or what ever to 100% - but i think most people even don't really look at quality but rather only on the price tag and the brand. When i took my pam to the authorized dealer to send it to repair he said to me "oh, that's right, but i wouldn't notice it myself" - intending, it's just an optical flaw that only "picky" people notice. But once you've noticed something like this, it bugs you; ) It's like buying fresh nike sneakers with a black dirt spot on them, which will not come off. I will post the picture of the crown guard, when it comes back from panerai... we will see; )... hope they repair one thing without damaging another... lol

WOW... i will wait for the watch and tell you all when it comes back (hopefully soon) how it looks then.

I bought it online, but from a german dealer who has a shop and who is known as reputable. Also i got all the correct papers and also the watch has all the correct signs of a gen and was also accepted as a gen by panerai. So i could send it back actually, but it will take longer to wait for a new watch, than for a repair...

yes; ) but seriously: for that price i expect at least a not so obvious flaw. I can't imagine a rolex with such a optical flaw -or did anyone has something like that on a gen watch?

Ok, after a long time of observing the rep market i bought me a gen 111M for my birthday from a reputable and official watch reseller. After few weeks of wearing the watch, i just looked for curiosity closer to compare to the images of the 005 here on forum. And now please check the gap of the crown guard looks!!. I was really disappointed and wanted to share this with you guys, as i was always thinking the gen panerais are flawless. Now i brought the watch to the Ad and he said they never saw this before, but it might be some kind of glue that panerai uses to while screwing the screws into the holes (that is used in aviation also), and it might gotten out while assembling and "frozen" so the screw was not tighten correctly. The screw sits super tight, and you cannot screw it more into the crown, to make it flush with the body. So now the watch is away to panerai and i have to wait 4 weeks... Although i must admit that the finishing and the whole quality of the gen is much higher than the rep if you look really closer.

I think swiss customs are not the best customs to deal with, as they know exactly all the brands and all the rules. If they are saying just to pay 60 bucks, it sounds VERY fair to me, as they could also confiscate the watch, or even charge you penalties and open a case for that. So i think if they write like this, it's quite fair, and i would not argue with them. Thats my humble opinion.

can i buy this one? pleeeeeeeeeease...

Such watches of such values , i would not buy on internet - even if he photgraphs the watch with the right serial number and the correct date and so on and on: what's the point of selling a 4K watch for 400 dollars? why not 1000 dollars? would still be a bargain, right? So it's like 100% sure, that he might have the correct watch, and pictures, but will take the money and send you just nothing. And he probably knows, that if you pay 400 euros and get nothing, or a cheap rep, you will not be make a move as it will be far more expensive to take a laywer and will eat up month of time to get that money back - so i think he just speculates, that you will just let it be.

The pix could be gen, but 400 Dollars ?!?! for an IWC? no way... maybe you get gen pix but deffinetely not a gen iwc for that price...