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I think h factory N dial; rest noob; but I am no expert... This is under the philosophy that it is hard for the factories to do the pig

What's a BP version? Is that a maker?...love to hear the experts opinions

And what was on your wrist when you noticed the yacht club? Gen or rep? Did you ask to take a closer look, or not as you didn't want to cause attention to what you were wearing? I often have that problem and was wondering if others have that "issue"

I wear my diver on bracelet under dress shirts all the time

cant tell from my picture. I will have to look at home, but tfrom the gen picture above, and my picture above, they don't look too far off...I guess its all in the white balance setting of the cameras.

Agreed it still looks too low. Maybe I use my h dial with new noob case set or live with the SLC

thanks for the Toro link, That helped. just wondering if i want the torpedo love on my dial. So you don't even think the new and improved dial for Noob has Panerai in the correct spot? did you order the extra lugs and Watch from PT as well or from Toro? Thanks!

really??? no one has the knowledge or is willing to share?

here is the picture of my case that is cracked

ok, used the search function and got caught up sort of..:

Overall the differences i have gathered from the fora:

Noob

1) Has Ceramic Crown like GEN (really nice feature///or liability...i guess it can crack easily)

2) Apparently has better case color? Have not seen side by side between H vs, N vs Gen on ceramic color. maybe i missed it

3) Claim that lugs are replaceable with OEMs and will not scrape color when entering case? Are these two claims true? I had an earlier 292K from H and lugs definitely started scraping off the thin PVD on lugs

4) Pig Dial is apparently not as crisp as gen or H factory...confirmed atleast with one picture set...don't know if it is representative

5) updated dial without pig has Panerai in correct placement now...this seems true now

H

1) has best pig

2) 292K that i had lugs with thin PVD and black color was getting removed (had to use thick black sharpie)

3) my 292K case cracked right at the lug area...This is why I am seeking a new 292...please help... I can load a picture of my cracked case for your persual if requsted.

4) Cheaper

Anyone can confirm or have pictures Noobs claim on point 2 and 3?

Thanks for your help!

i have both, the gen rubber has tubes that are considerably thicker: maybe twice the wall thickness. from top and bottom though, it is very difficult or perhaps indistinguishable...caveat is that I haven't picked up a rep rubber in a year, but the three i have a very thin walled tube installed

hi-

puretime's 15400 looks interesting. Surprisingly it is more expensive than the diver as it seems like its a simpler watch. Any comparisons with Gen? This might be a nice alternative to those who don't want such a large watch like the diver.

Closed case back for more of a "rugged diver" look

nice stuff!

trevor time is where i bought

ok thanks

thanks DG,

When you look from the side of the case at the "crown guard", the edges of the crown guard look curved (ie where the arrows are pointing) ..  i assume to give clearance for turning the crown... yet it doesnt look like the cutouts are symmetrical (ie it looks like the semi-circle cutouts are closer to the top of the crown guard then the bottom), but could it be lighting?

other photos from other watches look similar, though i haven't seen a gen from this angle.

1) the area around the crown guard.. is that accurate? the curvature inset around the crown? it doesn't look symmetric?

2) how does the dial look wrt registration and lume application? 7 0clock hex screw looks off? but par for the course? can i manually fix?

3) overall comments?

4) i  know i need a regulaion check and a lume check

5) anything else?

TIA for your expert eyes!

So if the dealer claims they got the watch, it should be good and not a factory second?.

I believe you I just don't know how the gen bezel works

When you buy a complicated movement like a mechanical chronograph in a replica, you must accept that you will need to service it in order to protect your "investment" .. Perhaps not in the first months but eventually.

that makes sense, but this is not a complicated movement (i.e. no Chrono with the diver)

I am not 100% how it's supposed to function as in gen diver, but it does rotate with super accuracy w confident 'clicks' ; When it rotates it is perfectly aligned with markings on the watch face. Hope it answers your question :-)

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 Wow, so the internal bezel clicks on the minute markings? I thought was just a free-flowing bezel. Is it also only one-directional or is it bi-directional?

Thanks!

Sorry for the noob style question...I don't have any experience with ap reps. Just Pam's. i have read the the 3.5 lume is decent but not super lume like the recent Pam reps. Thanks for all your help.

fischy-

did you get the toro version with swiss eta movt? Other's here get this movt from Toro?

can someone compare the lume on the 3.5 vs. say a noob or HF super lume pam?

with all this hype on a 177L, just wondering if a bastard/franken could be made? I was originally looking for a brown sandwich dial, but i don't think this model exists...

any thoughts?