ArkoN

If I wear my gen 16610 and many ppl asking if its fake.... 

Thats the latest clark insert, I dont like the pearl.

 

iny my language there is a speech. Nothing is too tight ;-) Just not bend enough

he posted pictures of the movement over at RWI its a 21j^^ But with that. He didnt even want to ripp off anyone here. He just got ripped. Sad^^

But we help you out when you buy youre next watch at a trusted dealer here :-) 

Awsome tony. How are the CG's, i saw in a thread that TC's new offerings had different cg's and inaccuarte than previos ones. Any true? Perhaps an unlucky buyer?

Long story made short. That is NOT the case. It was ONE Sub that was even a BK Sub and not a TC with different CG`s. But all other new Caddells and TC`s have the same case and the same CG`s that are fine.

 

For the bracelet Story have a look here:

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/163930-tc-sub-type-5-bracelet-issue/#entry1278863

Its too hard fo fake promote a good replica dealer here. Why? Because his watch has to beat anything that is on the market right now. And there are so many details. If his TD just sells him a BP or Noob so what? We have our approved dealers for that.  

I would love to see pictures of the "swiss" movement ;-) What do you pay for it? 1200$?

Im no expert but the dial looks horrible and the date font looks wrong too. Then the bracelet doenst look right either. The font on the insert look too fat for me.

 

lets see what the others say. But for me its a fake and I dont see gen parts on it. But let the real experts cime in

thats bad, should I try to bend it down with force or better not? I have to look for another bracelet I`m not happy with this one

is TC still offering the v3 bracelet?

Hi,

 

I mailed TC some days ago, but still waiting for an answer. But I think you guys know this anyway. I own a gen 2009 V-Series Sub. And got the TC Sub Type 5 the last days. Overall TC did a great job on answering emails fast giving me quick updates and the watch is also very nice done. I do not blame TC in any way. But the bracelet I`m not happy with. It feels kind of cheap and I cant bend the end links like on my gen. To show you that best, have a look on my picture. It is the same on both sides, the links wont go down like on my gen. Is that because the TC Type 5 sub is an older Version of the Sub with no rehaut engraving and that gives this kind of bracelet?

 

TC Sub is on the right side:

 

 

greetings ArkoN

 

You can just pop on it. But it needs a lot of force. And be sure that there is no force on the pearl part, because that part can break.

thanks a lot guys :-)

I`ve got the bezel in. But how to get the pearl out of a bezel? Nobody can tell me that. Even on repgeek someone is looking for that, but no answer yet..

Ive got the black insert in for testing. But need to know now how to get the pearl out of a bezel?

Hi everyone,

 

today I`ve received my tc sub . I just want to ask to be sure, is this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXI5-JjFenk

 

the best method the install the bezel. Or should I just press it in without removing the bezel assembly? Ive got the tc sub without any insert.

 

And one more question. I have one black bezel insert with a pearl and one blue bezel insert without a pearl. How to change to pearl to right way? I want to put the pearl from the black one into the blue one.

 

Thanks for youre help^^

 

greetings arkon

nice!!

Hmm, I normally never respond to things like this but.....

I see it this way, the review of Arkon is not at all a review. His intentions may have been to wright one but it is more a write off of frustrations about something not complying to his imagination/expectation. Something you should do in a PM to the seller.

On the other hand, if I where the seller here, I would be dissapointed (at the least) too and would have responded.

I never named the seller, NEVER. Why is everyone ignoring that?

 

If I`m dissappointed as a seller. What would I do. Make the buyer look like an fool again and again for beeing "happy 3 months" and so on? And not talk about the big flaws the item has? And tell the buyer he has no clue?

Were bitching here around about 0.2mm at our loved rep watched and everyone is fine with that. If I complain that there is no printing like this:

 

 

I get reps are not for you. lol?

 

 

 

 

I agree, put this to bed. It's not like you are out 600-1k for a dead watch. You were happy at first, then you weren't happy 3 months later. Well pal, let me tell you if  I sell something to someone and the buyer  comes back 3 months later and says my item isn't any good, found one cheaper, bla,bla,bla, my answer would be, sorry Charlie, you are about 2 and a half months too late. This isn't LL Bean, I don't give a lifetime warranties for reproduction goods. Your complaint period has expired, so get on with your life. I'm terribly sorry that your life got complicated, you had to move, your girlfriend found a new fella, you pet goldfish died, you lost your job, etc,etc, Welcome to the real world my friend, eveyone 's life is in turmoil about 50% of the time, you just have to learn to live with it. Hard for me to belive that early in that 3 months of your lifes upheaval, you didn't have time to sit down at your computer and send Ken a email expressing your feelings about the bag.

I never mentioned any seller name... (I repeat myself here, like? 9 times) Why is there any complaint period? When I buy today a rlx noobmariner I^m not able the complain about the flaws 3 months later? Do we complain about the item? Yes I think so. The item not the seller!

I agree with you fraggle42. I should have made completely without emotions and just the facts. That is my fault. And I should check out the bag before wearing it. I was just trusting that this is anyway the best quality LV Daniel bag.

 

Ive got QC pictures, but I was not able to see these faults I wrote about on them. Here are the QC Pictures I`ve got:

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

I love this forum and talking about gen and reps and the members with their awesome knowledge. I`m on some gen forums and people there have no clue at this level. Especially at the german speaking ones. I ordered my first rep at 2008. I relied on the dealers recommendation from this forum and went never wrong. But this time the way "they" try to blame me for just writing a review for you is very disappointing.

 

Please read this carefully and read the other thread also please, to understand everything.

 

But know I feel really sad. No one gets my serious. 

 

 

Lets start from the beginning, this thread: (please read this two pages thread to understand everything)

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/157315-a-little-lv-daniel-bag-fake-complain/

 

Parts of my first posting:

 

I prepared this little "review" months ago, made pictures, did the research and so on. But than had a lot of personal things to do like a new job and new flat that were more important than a fake bag.

 

I ordered a LV Daniel GM Bag from a seller here(and one other item with problems also). I dont speak out his name(and let him read this und contact me first).

 

 

 

 

1. I prepared this review months ago, had no time to post it because of > read above!

2. I did wear this bag NOT 3 month!

3. I never mentioned ANY sellers name!

 

Then KB directly posted at this thread, I do not repost the entire posting here:

 

3rd if the bag is from me then it is at least $100 cheaper than a good quality replica watch, post one of those up on a gen watch forum and see how long it takes for them to rip you apart, why is it that people expect flawless accessories reps for a fraction of what they pay for flawed watch reps?

 

The bag was 200$ and yes today most high quality replica watches are more expensive. But If I buy from a seller like KB I expect quality that is better or equal to some random ioffer seller that sells me the bag for 100$. And the flaws are complained to a fake watch the same as like misspelling the word "rolex". There are big flaws, not little ones. If I get a fake watch for 200$ I don`t have this big flaws.

If you wanna see the flaws look at page one here:

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/157315-a-little-lv-daniel-bag-fake-complain/

And page two:

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/157315-a-little-lv-daniel-bag-fake-complain/page-2

 

 

And we dont have to take the discussion about wear level. We dont have to talk about why I posted this three months later(now I regret that).

 

Look at the flaws this rep has. It jumps in youre eyes.

 

I repeat myself the facts:

 

 

1. I prepared this review months ago, had no time to post it because of > read above!

2. I did wear this bag NOT 3 months! Only 4-5 times.

3. I never mentioned ANY sellers name!

4. I dont want my money back or some sort of refund!

5. Dont tell me reps are not for me. Do you ever tell anyone reps are not for you if youre nitpicking and see flaws? I dont think so.

6. I did this thread for review purposes, if you wanna buy a LV bag what to look for!

 

One good posting there was from diaby2afc

 

I don't see where the OP has personally attacked the seller.  Not sure why seller is being defensive.  He found flaws in the bag which may not bother others and he says the bag isn't as robust as he'd hope for.  It seems he was fine with everything which is why he tried it out a few times and then became surprised at how quickly it began to show wear.  How was the OP supposed to know when he received the bag brand new that it would show that kind of sign of wear?

 

Seems to me he's just putting his perspective on the bag.  Don't see anything wrong with that.  I don't see OP asking seller for anything here.

 

 

 

 

That is 100% correct! I dont name the seller and I dont ask him for something. First person who gets it right.

 

 

Then KB answer:

 

Why am I being defensive?

This is the exact same bag you will find reviewed in my review section, the bag is so highly regarded that others who read the reviews come to me for the same bag and the OP says it's junk.

 

 

 

The bag is highly regarded and nobody have seen this flaws. That is nice. But the truth is, it has some big flaws. And I did review them, without any intention to hurt the seller. I DID NOT NAME HIM!

 

I always thought this is a place to talk about Rep/Gens and their flaws. Is it?

 

KB Answer:

 

There are customers who will never be satisfied by replica's, those people have the option to spend the extra $1200 to buy the genuine.

That said the reference was made that my bag was an inferior item, as the seller I do have the right to defend that claim.

I also need to point out the bag is made of leather and canvas, it will wear, the genuine will also wear and that's a fact of life.

 

 

 

Why taking the discussion down to the "customers who will never be satisfied by replicas" and its an "inferior item" and "the genuine will also wear". Sorry what is that talking about? That is policitians talking, I`m talking about the facts. And the facts are these flaws, nothing more nothing less. The flaws on this replica. 

 

I never wanted to talk about the seller, wear usage, reps are not for you thing.... On the next page of this thread 

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/157315-a-little-lv-daniel-bag-fake-complain/page-2

 

is again about wear usage and other useless talk. But one posting was interesting from legendkiller:

 

You can get PICTURES of the reps that are priced cheaper and seem to be better. But experience with replica bags tell me that you sometimes do not get the pictured back when you order the item pictured.

 

OK, I thought. Lets do this. I ordered from a completely random seller the same bag on ioffer. It was half the price. And I did the a better bag without these big flaws. Review is here: http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/157315-a-little-lv-daniel-bag-fake-complain/page-2

Now the last posting from KB is this:

 

Lets be clear here.

 

1. I sell replica, I have never, ever claimed mine are identical. This is a claim that no dealer...NONE...can ever make. I have over 1500 items on my new web site and I believe if I was to keep adding goods I can double that, does anyone honestly expect me to be an expert on every single genuine item?

 

 

 

No, But I expect some more quality than a 30$ LV Daniel Bag from iOffer or even equal quality to a bag that is on ioffer half the price?

 

 

2. That said my reviews show that my goods are consistently of a very high standard.

 

 

 

 

That is the reason I bought. 

 

 

3. It is and always has been the buyers responsibility to research the item before they buy.

 

 

 

 

What should that mean? I saw a review of youre daniel bag and wrote you I want to order this one. And Ive got a lower quality one. What the hell should I research more here?? The review was this one: http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/149044-hermes-belt-and-lv-daniel-gm-messenger-bag/

 

 

4. In past cases where a difference is found between the genuine and my goods the factory has agreed to make the change with the next production run.

 

 

 

 

Or just buy from a factory that gets it right? Most one get it right.

 

Now we come to the above buyer, he purchased a bag and was happy, he was happy for 3 months and then someone must have pointed out a flaw because after 3 Months he decided to do what he should have done before he bought, research the item.

 

 

I was happy for 3 months, WTF are you talking about??? And then someone pointed out a flaw??? No, read above again and again I repeated this 6 times already. That is NOT the case.

 

Now I have no idea what he thinks he is trying to do, does he want me to refund him because that's not going to happen. Try telling a watch dealer that their item is not the same as genuine after you buy, try telling them after wearing it for 3 Months!

 

 

I repeat myself the facts:

 

1. I prepared this review months ago, had no time to post it because of > read above!

2. I did wear this bag NOT 3 month! Only 4-5 times.

3. I never mentioned ANY sellers name!

4. I dont want my money back or some sort of refund!

5. Dont tell me reps are not for me. Do you ever tell anyone reps are not for you if youre nitpicking and see flaws? I dont think so.

6. I did this thread for review purposes, if you wanna buy a LV bag what to look for!

 

 

So maybe he thinks he is going to damage my business by dragging this out for what is 6 Months now and all because he was to lazy to research the item before he bought.

Well he might con one or two to take a chance on iOffer dealers but he is wasting his time if he thinks he can ruin my reputation.

 

 

 

I was too lazy to research the item before I bought. I thought a good review on youre item would be enough. That is wrong I see. KB says himself dont give a [censored] on his good reviews. Do youre own research and dont be too lazy to do that.... Or you will be blamed!

 

I never wanted to ruin youre reputation. Start reading the first thread from the start. If I wanted I would mention you`re name or made a "review" at you`re review section. I did not. I just reviewed the bag without the seller. I have to repeat myself again and again.

 

 

Another thing, if he spams others threads again (like he did today) he will be on the fast track to a ban.

 

Ken

 

 

 

Spam? I did two posting in like 2-3 months and this is my third one. This is spam? I think this is censorship to delete my posting! 

 

 

And threaten me with a ban for just speaking out the flaws on a replica item is not right way. I feel sorry for the good members here. I`m very disappointed about this. I mean this is a place to speak out the truth about flaws on replica`s, or not?

 

 

greetings ArkoN

 

 

 

 

So I did order the same bag from a random seller on ioffer. I did pay half the price and got the much better replica bag, pictures?  If you want some gen pictures have a look at the start of this thread.

 

The bag with the LV Logo is the one from ioffer. The other bag is from KB.

 

 

The bag with the LV Logo is the one from ioffer. The other bag is from KB. 

 

Bottom. On the left Side the iOffer bag. On the right side the bag from KB. On the gen there are logo printings like on the left side...

The ioffer bag, again gets it right:

KB`s one is completly off here too:

 

And why did you spend time to post your complaint here instead of having a private conversation with the seller? That is what I want to know. You started a public thread, so expect a public opinion.

What would this private conversation help? The seller, it is KB, also stated is has heavy wear. That is the point, he wont take it back anyway. 

 

I dont complain its fake, what are you all talking about??!!

 

I did order over 100 fake goods like shirts, bags, watches in my life. I know the rep game and this is a bad replica and I`m going to proof it. I order another replica of the some bag from another dealer and we will see.... The pictures from the other fake bag are screenshots from a video. I will never pay more than 150$ for the other replica bag.

Ive also posted some pictures from other fakes that are cheaper but more accurate. Lets go further with this. There are people that are never satisfied, you should not buy rep if you complain blablablaa... this is just not true

 

The point is, there are fakes out there, that are 1. cheaper 2. more accurate. Need proof? In 30 Days I do another, more detailed review, maybe with a DSLR Video. But then there is more than one Daniel bag in there.

 

I never tried to blame someone here, but many here try to blame me. I know the facts are on my side and I`m ready for it to put some money and time in to proof my facts.

I was happy the first time I used it for sure. But then only after 4-5 times wearing it, I saw the usage. I repeat myself here. Then I did research, just check out the official LV page and looked at other gen pictures. Did the measurement of the bag to see if its GM or MM and so on.

 

No one that has knowledge of the gen did see this bag in person. I stopped wearing it in January because of two reasons. 1. I dont wanna be called out wearing a fake by, the lv logo on the side. That is a tell that does not need that big of a knowledge. Second the materials are cheap and wear off very fast, that you experience only if you wear it more than once.