hk45ca

i am very proud to say i worked on every one of them. they will fly 50 feet off the deck at top speed on auto pilot, carry more weight in bombs than a b52, it is the size of a boeing 707 but flies and maneuvers like a fighter jet. i have read reports from white sands nm testing area that it's unpublished top speed is mach 5. the radar cross section of this aircraft is smaller than a piper cub. there is nothing else like it in the world. go ahead and have a beer, this is as good as it gets. lol

-1, Predictable.

it has been very predictable.

easy The Zigmeister, you have your empire all to yourself now, there is nobody left for you to worry about, they all left. happy now?

@carlsbadrolex,

i understand your frustration in this matter but there is no way to win a pissing contest on the internet. we have seen this happen before and i will bet we will see it again in the future. i would imagine you won't see flave back here doing any mods and i wouldn't be surprised if you don't see vaccum here anymore either. allot of people know what went down here.

edit, thank you tt. my post at slayer was off topic.

hk

From a visibility PoV, I totally agree with you. Infact, I was tempted to buy an LV Sub for my GMT Submariner project, as that would give a more visible dial, but, as I plan on using the 'left over' Submariner to convert to a Tudor, I didn't want the hassle of swapping the bezel insert for a black one

i just read your sig, we have ALLOT in common.

i hope you enjoy your vc, it is a stunning watch and i certainly do want one in the future. it will be 2 or 3 watches from now but i am sure there will be one in my collection before it is over.

wear it well man, its beautiful.

hk

i have to agree with you fully. we have all seen this scenario go down before so this doesn't surprise me.

to be honest with you, i wished all subs had a maxi dial. it is so much easier to read, or maybe i am just getting old and blind!!! lol

I appreciate the point you are making, but my point was why are those details actually important to you? Who is going to notice? Is it for yourself, or is it so others will think it is genuine? If it's the second option, seriously, save your money and don't bother. VCs are obscure enough that people wouldn't know a real one if it was slapped round their face, so they certainly won't question a rep of one, as it simply wouldn't occur to them that it would be a watch worthy of replication.

In terms of 'the best watch around', as pointed out in the discussions below my review, the only difference between the watch I have, and the watches others have bought from recommended dealers, is their watches have ETA movements, mine has an Asian movement. Other than that, the other elements of the watch are identical. The water-drop test (which I'd never heard of) confirms that my watch has a sapphire crystal... Is an ETA really worth $130?

In terms of modification, I am sure that there would be someone (possibly different people) who could perform the various modifications you require (such as brushing the markers) Indeed, I wish you the best of luck in your search, but don't forget, that for 100% perfection, you are going to have to have a watch modified in some manner to bring it into line with the gen, and, for the rather limited awareness about the VC amongst the general public, I personally feel that extreme mods like those would be a waste of time and money, as no-one would notice them, or even realize what they are looking at... Best of luck

it is just for me, think about it, nobody here would by a sub is the dial had that many noticeable flaws. i don't mind the small stuff but the dial is what you look at and we have people here complaining about the accuracy of the ship engraving on the case back., nobody can see that but you. if we didn't care about the details we would just buy canal street reps and save ourselves allot of money. lol

Personally, I think the Steel Fish and Evolution are ugly watches. But I am not a Breitling fan.

On the other hand my latest and upgraded Black VCO rep with an ETA movememt is beautiful. IMHO. It may not be a perfect rep, but I can certainly live with the one visible flaw-the shiny numbers (which aren't all that shiney, just not brushed). The accent mark over the second E in Geneve is a non starter to me because it is not visible without a magnifying glass. For less than $280, it's a bargain.

So I would rather have a rep of a beautiful watch that is 95-98% accurate than a 100% accurate rep of a watch that I personally don't think is attractive.

so the numbers aren't exactly polished to a high luster? if they are some dull i imagine this wouldn't be very noticeable on a white dial, especially with some heavy ar. i think these watches are absolutely beautiful. the design of the bezel being mimicked in the bracelet it just stunning to me. very classy. to me it is something one would expect from vc. it is the dressiest sports watch i have ever seen.

But the point which I believe was being made, is that there is not a rep which currently features those aspects, so the next logical route is either modifications, or buying the gen item... To be honest, why do those features matter to you? Are you likely to encounter anyone who's even heard of the VC Overseas, let alone handled one enough to know the flaws on the available replicas?

those features matter to me because thats what i would require to spend my money on one of these. there has been so many versions of these i was trying to make sure if these problems had been addressed. i would have been willing to spend the money to mod the ar but i haven't found anything yet from vc that says it has ar. their site doesn't mention it one way or another. i searched several gen sites and every review that google would bring up and still couldn't find anything that addresses ar. the only thing any of them addressed was that it had a sapphire crystal. this watch could easily turn into a 500.00 rep to fix all of these problems and if i could find one that had most of them addressed i would be willing to consider it but it doesn't look like it exists yet. as far as i can tell it looks like jay still has the best version of this watch. i am simply doing research on this model to see what improvements have been made and to see if i think it is close enough at this point to work with. if i buy one of these it won't have a unlimited budget for mods, if i am unhappy with the flaws that that remain when it is finished it will have been a waste of time and money. if the hour markers can't be brushed i am trying to decide how badly that shows up on a white dial with heavy ar. i am quite sure it is much more visible on a black dial.

the things i listed doesn't make this a perfect rep. i am not even sure it would put it on par with a sfso or an evo but it would have been good enough for me to live with.

so you are saying they shouldn't have made the steel fish or the evolution? i don't understand your comment. we shouldn't look for an accurate rep?

i think these are beautiful watches and i would love to have one with a white dial but i am having trouble finding one with the correct date window, crown, brushed numbers, correct cross on the dial all on the same watch. also i can't find any information about the gen having ar coating. the vc web site doesn't mention it and i can't find a review of a gen that talks about it. where is the info saying the gen has ar? i have done a google search on them and have searched 4 gen forums and still haven't found where it is mentioned at all. it still looks like jay's is the closest version.

it is beautiful! how difficult is the crown to operate? i sent mine back because of the date being off centered to the left and the crown was so difficult to screw down i had to hook my fingernails into the slots and work it around one slot at a time. it was terrible so i sent it back for a refund. it took about 30 minutes to screw the crown back down and my fingers hurt for 3 days afterwords. first it was sent for repair and they couldn't fix it and a refund followed. i was very disappointed for a so called super rep. my evolution is a much nicer watch.

i am very sorry for you and your family's loss. my condolences.

That is a GENUINE Rolex Submariner. I posted that pic at RWI

yes it is sir.

when i started doing research to do my tw best i collected tons of pictures of blue tt subs and my hard drive crashed and i lost all of them.

the sides of the links were not always polished. from the research i done, it looked like around the time of sel's and the gold running through the clasp they started changing over to the polished edges but it seems to have taken a while. if your sub has the lug holes in the case you can have it in any combination. brushed edges, sel, hollow end links, brushed buckel and gold through the buckel. all combinations were used. 2 years ago i went to my ad and looked at a new one and it had polished edges and then your picture shows a new one and it also so has polished edges.

as with allot of things with our reps it just depends on what year you are trying to replicate. if you are trying to do a z serial number then yes it has to have polished edges, if you are doing a older one you can do it either way. thats why i liked the idea of doing a older one. i bought a 18k and ss replacement bracelet for my tw best and it has hollow end links and brushed edges, that combination was used at one point with the lug holes so it will look correct.

I dont think modern subs have polished bracelets.

old ones don't have polished sides on the links but the new ones do. here is a brand new z serial no.

roflmao you two. but pug's been reinstated so i read, and i'd like to follow suit but i certainly have none of the pug fame/charm. so is it a closed forum then, or is it as ken said just a ban-happy forum and for whatever reason my screen name's bad or something?

ok, you are fixed now. the old spamkilling system kicked you out because of your e-mail extention. spamgourmet? come on man! lol

you can access now. lol

roflmao you two. but pug's been reinstated so i read, and i'd like to follow suit but i certainly have none of the pug fame/charm. so is it a closed forum then, or is it as ken said just a ban-happy forum and for whatever reason my screen name's bad or something?

i will find out for you.

hk

well, if you are not doing work for these guys anymore that means you will have time to more of my watches. thats good news for me, the people at trc and rwi.. coooooooooooooooooooooooooool lol

I have a feeling that Jetmid is a serious lurker - even while cruising at 500+ mph at 38,000ft.

you took the words right out of my mouth. he is omni present at high altitude, high speed and low drag. lol

Well I'm back out there next week..................

Group Buy ?

:-)

if you will let me have it for the same price as pugs i will take it. lol

allot of people (including myself) on these boards have recommended an purchased monsters from that seller. always good results.

Does anyone have first hand experienced getting this 005 dial relumed?

Mine is done in C7, very green color dial.

Hour and minute hands look more like C3.

Could I get the dial relumed in 80:20 mix C1:C2 and have the final color come out correct?

Some forum members suggest that the C7 green color will still show right through the new whiter lume job.

Finally, if it is relumed couldn't the numbers be redone just a little fatter?

Any comments?

edit: I just found Flavor Flav's comments down below about all C1 lume working well. Thanks Flavor Flav !!!

i bought a 195 last year and it had slime green lume that didn't glow. i sent it to have a upgraded c3 super lume dial put in it and it was still slime green, didn't glow, the fonts were to light and the markers were too thin. had another upgraded dial installed and it glows a little better but not like c3 and it is still slime green with light fonts and thin markers. vaccum superlumed a dial with c1 and sent it to me so i could see it in person and it is mint green, not white as it should be. the lume won't take a solid color. it has to have a white base if you want it to be white.

if flave can get the dial and hands white and match each other i will send him mine right now. i am tired of throwing money at what was a expensive rep to start with.

@Tulsa

That he did...

TT

PS: Can't you just feel the LOVE around here...

now you are in the 918, i don't always use that other server. lol, i was afraid you were thinking i was a wheat farmer for awhile.

i am just glad he was able to get their attention. this stuff has been going on for along time. a really long time.