metalshopper

Where can this watch be purchased? What is PWC

oh, I thought it was going to be a thinner movement because of something about not having to add the 11 extra gears??? Guess not.

What is the depth rating for this watch? Why is it that all of the replica divers seem to not be able to perform as well as the gens? If they are made with the same specs and sizes, why can't they act the same. I see that WM9 seems to be able to get the same performance as the gen since they do everything 1:1.

Well said. I am very optimistic on the new WM9 Daytona since their other products seem to be a success in making 1:1 reps...

I definitely don't mind all rep parts as long as they are 1:1. Is the rep case on your black dial daytona normal sized? do you know who makes those? All of the daytona reps I've seen so far are so obvious because of the fat case and extra high Bezel.

Yes, I am really loving those. Is there any way to get a "raw" el primero movement somehwhere direct or do I have to rip it out of an old watch. So the rest of the watch is Genuines? (Case/Dial/Bezel, ect???) If there were on of these rep dealers that could make 1:1 rep of the case/dials/hands/ect this conversion would be just the cost of the movement + rep parts... < $2000?

Well I have 4 Gen Rolexes already. I prefer to have the real thing, but I love the look of the Daytona, yet can't talk myself into spending 10K for a Stainless Steel Watch. Having a Perfect looking Rep will allow me to have the look I want without having to justify spending 10k to myself.

The El primero 400 is the actual movement used in the Seconds at 9 Daytona anyways right? So if he used gen case and parts and just put the el primero in, how is this any different than the gen bough from the AD? Besides the fact that it was created by him instead of Rolex.

Well there definately is a market for 600-800 watches since all of these "scam" sites sell tons of them. Now if only we can get more sites that deliver on High quality 1:1 Reps. So far it seems like WM9 is the closest to a 1:1 Replica and he sells them for about $600. I'm more than happy to pay that. And looks like he will be doing a Daytona some time next year as well. I am REALLY looking forward to that. I am fine with the Seconds at the 9. I would just like a perfect 1:1 case/body/dials/fit, ect.

lol, no, they don't exist. There is a TT one that is blue/blue, but looks nothing like that. anybody in the world would know that is a Replica in my opinion.

Damn, will the MBW fit those without modification???

Thanks for your replies. So beside the size and movement problems on the daytonas, the only reason these replica companies don't care to make their watches good enough is simply because they don't need to? That's a pretty weird thing to say when trying to replicate watches where the small details is what makes them popular. Simply Not doing a good job simply because 99% of the buyers couldn't tell the difference anyways seems kinda, well...lazy. Are there not any companies out there that are willing to spend the extra time and effort into making good replicas that can be sold for $600-$800? I know these Grade 1A Swiss Watches are supposed to be a scam, but whats makes them a scam? Are they not higher quality then the $200 watches seen on the popular sites mentioned here? They claim to use the 31 jewel Valjoux movement in the Daytona. Has anyone actually BOUGHT one of these supposed High end Replicas to see what they are really about? Or are they just considered a scam because they are expensive?

Also, What is the cost of the movement that will fit correctly in the case? surely the primero isn't too expensive right? what about some of the sites that claim to use a Genuine Swiss 31 Jewel Valjoux Movements. how does that fit?

Thank you very much. This is the exact kind of answer I was looking for. So the reason the case can't be made exact is because the movement used doesn't fit. What about the really obvious stuff like oversized crowns, Mishaped crown guards, wrong size dials or fonts, ect.... are those just gross negligence of attention on the part of the manufacturer?

Well the movement, is actually the part that seems to be the hardest to distinguish without actually removing the caseback. All of the swiss movements are 28,800 BPM just like rolex correct? I'm more questioning the actual appearance and sizing of the replicas, why not make your parts exactly the same size as the originals? Why not use the same fonts and the same distances and layouts as the originals? Why are the crowns and crown guards hardly ever the right size. Create a 1:1 sacle of the exact watch. Just take the original part and duplicate the exact dimensions. It just seem sooooo simple to do so...