Micky

The 61 is from "C" and "D" series only. It was followed by the 118 from "E" to "F" Series and is continued with the 177 from "G" onwards. The difference is in the dial - it has to be in "tobacco brown" on the 61 and 118, while the 177 has a black dial. Since "H" series, the 177 has the Sandwich dial.

Micky

Nice pieces, indeed!

In my personal opinion, the DJ is the only watch, that looks really good in SS/Gold. Have you ever tried a brown croc strap on it? You'd be surprised, it's a totaly different appearance - very classy

Regards, Micky

hehe, chronus, after some czech beer you'll help yourself by introducing you to the girls, sure about that

Andy, maybe we should do the GTG on german ground, so we won't bother our friends in uniform with stuff, that will force them to do, what they are paid for I don't think, we will need the whole of our cars to cross the boarder, so one of them will be a nice safe for our "goods".

Actually, the guy's name was Antoine de Saint Exupery, and he singned with "A."

He was a great Romancier and a Pilot, wrote some important Books between 1926 - 1948:

L'Aviateur (1926)

Courrier Sud (1929) (translated into English as Southern Mail)

Vol de Nuit (1931) (translated into English as Night Flight)

Terre des Hommes (1939) (translated into English as Wind, Sand and Stars)

Pilote de Guerre (1942) (translated into English as Flight to Arras)

Lettre

No reason for a "sorry", tonyp1, I'm allright with that.

In fact, wannabe pointed out two minor flaws on his baby, and I just wanted to tell him, that there are some issues, that are much more obvious - as he asked to rate his sub. Nothing more and nothing less

TT maybe right with his words, however I think 99,9% of the population would even recognize a genuine as fake. There's "Rolex" printed on the dial, so it must be fake

Yeah, you took some nicer words, than I did

Ok, I change my statement into: It would have been a nice watch, if it was bought 2 years ago.

Cheers

Idiot oops - Micky

after doing a liitle research to find out how close this was to a real sub, all i've managed to work out is:

1. The 'm' on the end of the line : 1000ft = 300m dosn't align with the 'm' in the word 'chronometer' below

2. there isn't a small rolex logo etched below the 6 mark

thats the only flaws i could see

Don't know, how to say it in a way that doesn't harm your enthusiasm for your new toy. but... - I can see some more flaws. To be honest, I can't see anything, but flaws.... Case, crown, CG's, clasp, dial-printing, hands, date-font - everything looks a bit like a SUB - but that's all.

Sorry mate, but you asked... Hope, you didn't gave to much money for it.

It was the same with me, some years ago. I bought my first SUB and was really happy with it, until the moment, when I came to compare it with other reps and genuine ones. Suddenly I knew, I was scammed

No offense meant, believe me, I have a bad conscience by writing this. But I think the usual nice-watch-wear-it-in-good-health-blabla would be unfair...

Cheers and welcome aboard,

Micky

I'd be in, if it's in the mid of july

Don't know anything about opening times, but Helmut or piratedzeus seem to know...

Maybe we should start a topic in the general discussion?

I don't think, you will damage a movement just by using it's functions. Due to it's construction, a modern movement is, although it's a a complicated machine, durable and sturdy - if well finished and serviced. If some functions are used in a way, that is not usual, the only thing you have to fear about is the shorter terms of servicing the watch.

I, for example, collected vintage Omegas. Most of them where running for more than 40 years and I'm sure, not every owner handled them very carefully. I never had any Problems with the Movements, apart from oiling and replacing spare parts. None of them was really damaged.

Hope, that helps a bit

As far as I can see, these are watches of not the highest quality available. The swan neck regulator on the Unitas movements is missing, the SEL's on the Rolexes look poor and and and... On the pictures of the watch you mentioned, the complete regulation device on that Valjoux is simply not there

I'm sure, if you ask one of the trusted "collectors", you will get a better quality for less than a quarter of that prices.

Cheers

Micky

Hmm...

I'd be interested anyway - just for the fun in it

Moin Helmut!

Welcome aboard - you'll see, after reading and reading and reading in the forum, your next experiences won't be that bad.

By the way - I think, I have to drive to the Czech boarder some day, I heard a lot of the markets over there. With all that Germans here, we should organize a get together and discover that places.

Greetings from the Teufelsmoor,

Micky

After some google research, I have to agree:

"US President George W. Bush is a very modest person: he wears a 50-dollar Timex Indiglo watch. The American president is sure that he will never lose his watch ...( )...: the presidential watch has a personal engraving on the back: George W. Bush President January 20, 2001."

English Pravda

Here is the complete article, very interesting, though. Now I know, where all those Patek's are sold Putin wears a 60,000-dollar watch in comparison with George W.Bush's Timex for $50

As far as I know, the traditional watch for an US President is the Vulcain Cricket, isn't it? In this case, it's much cheaper than a Timex, because it's sponsored

Not joking, too...

About 1 Year ago, I had some reps serviced by a watchsmith in Bremen. I have his adress and phone number, shouldn't be a problem to ask him, if he's still in business.

I have to contact him anyway, because I have an issue, too. So, if that's a solution for your problem, let me know...

Regards, Micky

Hi...

The "H" in an ETA Logo under the Balance says, that this movement is an FHF (Fabrique Horloge Fontainmelon). As one of the oldest swiss Movement Manufacturers (founded in 1793), FHF was a founder of the Ebauches SA, wich was followed by ETA. In the late 1970's production with the old FHF Logo stopped, until then only Movements with ETA Logo and Parts for them were produced.

Unfortunatly I did'nt find anything about that specific Movement...

@ all:

thanks

@ cableguy:

It's a rep crown, that I had in my spareparts box. I think, it's from an older Sub, I got from the same collector.

Hi all...

Not to show off all the details, you can see in almost every post about SUB's, but to send you warm summer greetings from the german north shore

It's Pauls "so called perfect" SUB, with some small mods: I replaced the horrible big crown with a better one and gave the pearl a drop of clear paint to make it look better. I still have to find a way to fix the mag - after that it will be a very close one, as I think.

Enjoy:

Have a nice day

Micky

If you ask me, I'd love to see the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms as a Rep.

Either the Vintage:

Or the contmporary:

would be great to have

Thanks for the warm welcome

I'll go one to the Reviews section...

I started collecting watches 16 years ago and focused on vintage Omega Seamasters, built up a nice collection with some rare ones from 1948/49, some military pieces, and also the cheaper watches, built in the 1970's plus stuff like boxes, papers and so on, wich is hard to find. The collection was almost complete (around 80 pieces), when I traded it at a fair in Munich for the watch of my dreams - a Patek Philippe Annual Calender in WG.

I'm still happy with this decision

Since then I started collecting other stuff, like baby clothing, toys and Bobby Cars - not for me, but for my little girl After she was born, I got another view for the worth of money, if you know wht I mean...

But from time to time the old Virus caught me and I felt like "I have to buy a watch" - so I started to gather informations about replicas. Nowadays, if I get nervous and my wrist is itching, I get myself a nice rep - just for the fun in it.

So, I don't think that I'm still a collector, but maybe...

Regards, Micky

Time to say "hello", I think...

After loosing interest in reps 3 Years ago, the virus caught me again.

I was lurking long enough to see, how friendly and polite everyone behaves on this board - and to be amazed about all that knowledge. In my opinion, one can't do anything wrong with collecting replicas, if he follows the hints, given over here. So, I started my new collection with ordering a "so called perfect" SUB - just to get in touch with the new quality of reps. Regarding DHL, it's in the air somewhere between Hong Kong and Germany, maybe tomorrow I can tell you about my impressions - if anyone is interested on this more-than-enough-discussed-issue

I'm looking forward to having a good time with all of you

Regards, Micky