That's interesting. I recently saw a biker wearing Seawolf, OK not a very expensive watch, but still, what is my impression? Must be gen, why -- well the guy looks nuts, full of tatoos, driving a Harley, which surely costs more then the watch, and this sort of foks are serious about some items, they go at extra length to get the right stuff, right? Well that is my impression, I would bet it was a genuine, whether the guy sold some drogs, robbed a jewlery store, or whether he's a rock star, he surely has the means of obtaining a genuine watch.