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That would be nice. Something else that bugs me is when the location isn't listed. Its obvious when the sales listing is £xx.00 or some other currency but some member list the value in USD no matter where they are shipping it from.

New spring bars??

The spacing between "Oyster Perpetual Date" is too wide. That's one thing I know for sure. I have been thinking about getting this GMT version so I am in the process of reading as much as I can on it. I also think the crown guard is a bit off. If you look at a side shot of the gen vs the rep you can see that the top edge of the CG curves over the crown more than the gen.

I am also worried about the bezel. It is all blue and the black is painted over it. if you happen to scratch the black the blue will more than likely show through.

I am considering picking up the batman GMT. I noticed PC has thr 2813 version for right at $200 with free shipping. theother option is. The 2836-2 for about $100 more. Considering both movements are Asian is there a reason to opt for the 2836 over the 2813?

it's actually the GMT-Master II from BP, and its look is really similar with new sub except the bezel and fonts on dial...

So is the bezel and dial fonts better on this version than the noon sub?

So this is the BP factory version of the batman GMT II? I take it this is the same one all the dealers are selling right?

What dealer did you get it from? Can you post a straight on shot of the dial, from the angle it looks like the spacing on the oyster perpetual is closer together like it should be.

I'm a little confused.

Are these your pics and you want us to guess what factory made it or did you find those pics online and want to know where you can get a rep of it.

Rolex??

If you are referring to the arrow tip vs. the box second hand the gen was made both ways. the original gen SOSF had the box second hand Breitling later switched to the arrow shaped hand.

No you don't use pliers to widen the gap. You use pliers to adjust the curvature of the arm portion of the clasp. I found this out adjusting a deployant clasp. I didn't like the curve so I tried to adjust it to fit better and in doing so it would go from closing and not locking, to closing and locking too tight, to not even closing.

Where are you located? If in the US pm me your address. I have a working clasp. The fold over part that says Breitling 1884 is a little messed up on the corner but the part that is jacked up on yours works perfect so between the one you have and the one I will send you you should be able to make 1 functioning clasp.

Has anyone tried to put the new rep rubber on an old UPO?

I am holding off to see the noob version but would love to put the new style rubber on my UPO to hold me over.

How does the AR on the Cyclops look?

My worries would be hitting the bezel and scratching the black portion which would then look like s blue scratch.

Trusty has this withcthe Asian2813 or 2836, any reason to go with the 2836 seeing as they are both Asian clones how much better could one be over the other to justify the extra $110.

I was cleaning up my Seiko Monster and when I went to reinstall the bezel the gasket got pinched and pretty much destroyed. Finding a replacement bezel gasket is seeming to be quite the pain. Does anyone know if this gasket does anything for waterproofing the watch? The bezel fits pretty snug without it so while I try to track down a gasket is it still OK to go in the water with my monster?

Also anyone know of a good reliable source for the bezel gasket.

Try TPD ventures. I ordered an asulmente(sp) strap with PVC deployment. I could not have been happier with the product or the customer service. Very responsive and super fast shipping.

Just wondering if anyone knows a way to lighten up the rep PVD to the more graphite color of the gen DLC. I purchased a 026V1 from a member to try out both the destro and a non SS Panerai and I think if I could get it a bit lighter it would look a lot better.

Good old Super ocean

Timex has watches that have a similar appearance to G Shocks in smaller sizes. They are probably just as robust as well plus they are not just some cheap digital watch that will break the first time they get wet or banged on.

I have an orange UPO at the moment with gen crystal and from use the bezel insert is showing signs of wear. I am considering a black insert replacement but looking on the bay some a shiny black and some are more matte black. Anyone know which is true to gen, shinny or matte?

Looking at Josh's pics his lume shot is taken with a black light being used to light the area,you can see the purple reflection on the case. Wonder what the lume is like without the blacklight??

Wonder when the orange bezel will be out.

I have a UPO now with a gen crystal, wonder if I could put my gen crystal into this rep??

I was browsing the TD websites looking to purchase a TG chrono. I happened to check out Watcheden and am seeing they have alot more Top Gun models than anyone and they are all sub $200. They even have the new style TG with no sub dial at 9 and no day.

Anyone else seen these at watcheden?

Thanks Ocram, I found outvabout the pliers trick last night while searching for more info. Worked like a charm on my big pilot and I also used the same trick to fix the stripped crown on my UPO. I have the gen parts for the UPO and just haven't had the time to do the swap.

I guess time will tell how well the pliers trick will hold up.

As the title states, went to set my big pilot this morning and when screwing the crown back in it stripped. It is threaded inside the tube so I can't tell if its the crown or the tube that is stripped at this point.

Anyone have this happen??

Is there anywhere that one could get replacement parts??

I ordered a strap for my B&R 02, it is nylon custom made and has orange stitching. The maker knew the watch has 26mm lugs but the webbing used was 25mm. He told me that if you play with it enough the webbing will stretch out but I have done everything I can think of and it will not stretch out enough so now there are gaps that you can see the spring bars through and it bothers me so much I don't even wear the strap anymore.

I would like to find something with a 24mm lug width, I really would like a Bell & Ross as this strap has a particular aviation theme to it but I have no idea which of the square ones even come close to looking like gen and I don't want to dump $600 on the aviation.

I like the PVD ones with the orange numbers on the dial as the strap has orange stitching but looking at the B&R site these seem to be fantasy versions with no gen counterpart.

Any suggestions, or anyone know where I can get black spring bars??

I checked with Josh and Andrew, sent a message to pure time with no response.

I saw the one on RG but its in EU and I am in USA.