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I hope it gets their today for everyone's sake! Can't wait to see these pics.

I just hope I can get my questions to BK answered and his modded DSSD bought before I am banned!

My point wasn't, "Oh look at me... I'm so cool." The point was, that people that come to the forum, look at pictures and see all this commentary on the minutia that is wrong with the REP. This isn't something that should stop you from getting a REP. That is what was stopping/worrying me before purchase. I was trying to demonstrate to people what kind of real world expectations they can expect. People taking themselves way too seriously and getting P!SSED off is just an added benefit of my winning personality I guess. I am wondering if I should go back to the jeweler, explain to them that I am not allowed to go into their establishment with MY watch. Apologize for getting the band adjusted and paying them for it AND accepting their compliment. I now see the error of my ways. "I have a duty higher than the law." Just heard that from Leslie Neilson on a classic episode of Hawaii Five-O

When my friends want to dictate what I do in my life, then I'm not really good at earning friends. It's not difficult to alienate people from being my friend when I read something like that, and think to myself, "How lucky I am that Animal from the Muppets on the forum is a lawyer and giving me free legal advice?" I can save the 30 grand in legal fees I have budgeted this year, by just posting all my legal issues on the forum! Should read: Hey, I'm not anybody's mother. I'm just passing on friendly advice, that playing, "Do you know if my watch is real?" is not a good way to earn friends. If you do want to do it, I suggest posting the adventure in a new thread, then you will see what I'm talking about. Not sure if you're a lawyer, but I am, and I think your interpretation is too narrow. I don't have to interpret, as I am following the letter of the law. You are the one playing the interpretation game, because you are not. The rule clearly states, "Authorized Dealer." You then attempt to legitimize your overly broad and reaching interpretation, by presenting some kind of quasi-case law (your link) but upon examination, that case law again speaks about AUTHORIZED DEALERS. Where did you get your law degree, REP Lawschool? That is how you do not earn friends... my friend.

Best offer: no keys, I lost them when I moved next door, but I will supply tow chain.

There you have it. Exactly why you shouldn't listen to me! Car still for sale, you can view it in my neighbor's driveway.

So the bezel on the 45mm has like half the teeth of a 42mm? If you buy this, I have a car I want to sell you... no title.

Dial numbers are more accurate than any I have seen. Here is my 2 cents worth of problems before even going into the watch itself. 1. There are 2 pictures of essentially the same thing. 2. The pictures are not just angled but skewed. 3. There are no pictures of anything but the face. It is difficult to say with certainty, but I say a REP, possibly with a GEN dial.

What time does the mail usually get to your hacienda Vandal? When can we expect this thing?

I wasn't at an authentic dealer, nor is the place I am going an Omega dealer. The rule reads, "Authentic Dealer." So no problem.

Uh oh, we're in trouble Vandal. We're breaking the rules again.

Whoo Hoo! You have ME pumped on this DDSD now! Can't wait to see yours and read your review! Tomorrow we dine in Hell!

No she didn't see it. This is my wife, telling her sister. Had she not mentioned the REP part and let her sister see it first, it would have been like, "Wow, that's a REP?" Instead my poor watch has to fight an uphill battle now to get any street cred! I looked up the jeweler challenge store. They sell many high end watches, but not Omega. I feel confident coming off this win that my watch has the momentum to go for the title. Like you said, your own presence is a factor too. "Is this watch fake?" "How dare you sir!" I'll try to play it through to the end. I want to see this thing take the gold!

Didn't you say you had 3 watches at the same time? If so, maybe that is the issue. I emailed BK about the DSSD. He got back to me today, and has them in stock. I asked him another question via PM, so I am waiting for his reply. My sister in law was not impressed with it passing this jewelers test, so I have to go into a Rolex dealer and do it, for her to officially think the watch isn't junk.

OK, so I went to the jeweler. I talked to a sales woman who loved the watch. Treated it like a newborn baby (and not one that was crying.) I asked if they would adjust the band smaller. She said that she wouldn’t because it was an Omega, that she would have her watch guy do it. The watch goes into the back room for the watch guy to do it. I say back room, but this is actually still all visible to me, it is glass separating the jewelry store from the workshop/appraisal area. I should also mention that this jeweler has been in business over 25 years. They do not sell high end watches, they had only Seiko & Citizen watches there, and they deal mainly in diamonds… BUT none the less, this is a professional. About 5 minutes later, the watch guy comes up to me in the showroom and says, “This is a beautiful watch.” I try it on, and he’s adjusting it and making sure it’s all good. Now, that should give you an idea of the overall quality of the watch. I want to do this again with a high end jeweler in town, and see what they have to say about it. I am a little surprised, but also more than a little pumped up about the whole thing. I actually made an audio recording of the whole jewelry store visit with my phone. I tried to upload it, but the site says that I am not premitted to upload this type of file. It is really a 7-1/2 minute version of what I wrote, with a lot of waiting in the showroom in between. You know how I love morals, so the moral of the story is, pretty much what I said in the last 4 posts. The quality is definately there.

But still, yours looks good. It's decent quality, it is much better than you would expect coming from China. You and I know the logo is wrong, and I only know from the last month of painstaking obsession about this damn watch. The pearl is wrong... OK. I know Omega says that 7 out of 10 people know who they are and know their watches... I think that is a little generous. As I said before, "If it isn't a Rolex, many, many people won't much about this watch.” that is one of the reasons I chose it. Average Joe certainly isn't going to know the ins and outs of a logo & exact font on a watch face. Not only that, these GEN watchmakers do so much non-sense to the watches as far as changes to combat the counterfeiting, that unless you live and breathe it, you can't say with 100% certainty if this or that is genuine. Case in point, there was a question Vandal asked in the Rolex forum about the micro etched crown at the 6 O'clock position on the Deep Sea Dweller. Even the experts over there said it didn't exist. Then they reversed that later and said it did. Not only that, that the REP that he had DID in fact have the micro etch, and he had not seen it before. I have said to people before, "The U.S. Govt. changes the money so damn often, I wonder if I couldn't just print out a twenty I made, bring it into a store and say, 'Oh, that's the new money.'" They would probably take it! I guess the main reason I chronicled all of this is that I just went through it. I made, or almost made many mistakes. People; realize that when the guys really into it on the forums say, "This is wrong or that is wrong" compared to a GEN, realize that the level that they may be speaking about on these high-end REPS could be miniscule. Some guys on the forum are operating so far beyond you, me and the average person, that it is like we are an ant saying, "I can lift 25x's my body weight! I just picked up a whole leaf by myself!" compared to a crane lifting a 100 ton bridge section. The lower end REPs or glaring mistakes and imperfections, that’s another story, these factories cut their teeth on the older stuff, which is why I went with the newer, more popular watch style (the P.O. instead of the 300M.) The guys busting their (the factory's) balls on inaccuracies, is why we have these higher quality REPs now. Again, the moral of the story is, “Use common sense and factor in the level or extreme of what you are looking at and the cost.” This “Chinese junk watch” is incredibly accurate and of a much higher quality than I think a lot of people can imagine without seeing it and handling it. I am going into a fine jeweler in my area to have this bracelet sized. Not because I can’t do it myself, but to see what happens when they see this watch. This is a real jeweler, that does not carry Omega (to my knowledge,) but carries other luxury watches. Are they going to spot it as a REP right away, or not. If not, I am going to keep pushing so they have to inspect it closer. What replication level is this watch really?

Here's a perspective shot (from my screen) so you can see what I mean about "actual size" vs. the pictures you look at on the forum. OK, so if I take my actual watch, hold it up to my screen, the small watch within the watch in the picture, is it's actual size. Obviously if you are looking at this on a smart phone or something, the watch isn't the size of a pencil eraser, so use some common sense. My point is, this is to scale. Try to find the same "flaws" we picked out and documented in the first picture on the "little watch." That is what is going to look like in real life more or less.

Here is a close-up for the 10x guys. To give you an idea, the small white speck between 20 and 25, that is a piece of dust. You can't even see it with the naked eye. There is another one on the band at the top right, between the 3'rd and 4'th hash mark. Another on bottom left, looks black, continue the 7 O’clock marker to the band to see it. So consider, these are not blemishes, or scratches... this is a tiny piece of dust. The He valve may look mangled or something, that is a photo flaw, there is nothing wrong with it at all. At the 7 minute marker, the photo looks like there is something wrong with it, a nick or something, that isn't actually there, I don't know what it is in the picture. To put the size into perspective, I have a 24" monitor, and if I hold the actual watch up to my screen, the farthest point of the He valve to the winder crown on the actual watch, fits on the picture from the center of the hand post to the end of the hour hand. The ENTIRE watch face is smaller than the hour hand in the picture! The numbers are not exact. There is a slight flare to the GEN numbers, specifically on the "2" of the "12". Again, this isn't something you can see, without the magnification, to any degree of certainty. The AR coating may look blotchy in the picture, in person it is not. You could pick this apart all day in the picture, but if you saw it in person, you would be like, "Wow, that's pretty F'n incredible." I am almost completely happy with this watch. Maybe a lume job... that's really about it. Not that the lume looks bad, it just glow super long. Again, it doesn't look bad, uneven, discolored from hands to markers, nothing like that; it just doesn't last for hours and it's a nit-picky thing. Yea, you could get silly with it, but for 99.9% of the people looking at getting something like this, on this forum, seriously... just get it. If you're going to spend the money, spend it, I recommend the "Swiss" ETA movement, but that's me... God knows if it's even that inside. Like someone mentioned, these are counterfeiters, they worship at the temple of the almighty dollar. They are not Geppetto in his workshop toiling over something they love to deliver your dream watch to you because they like and respect you. Your only buffer between the factory and yourself is the vendor you decide to get your watch from. I chose Joshua at Perfect Clones (the real site), whoever you choose, make sure it is someone decent like Pure Time (their real site), Trevor, Whoever Vandal said he used (I can't remember right now) etc. etc. etc.

I haven't taken out that half link yet, but here you go! I love this freakin' watch! Aside from my crappy picture taking skills, I don't know why it looks like it has a yellow tint to it, it doesn't. Where it looks golden on the bezel is silver. It must have been the lighting or the angle. THat's why it looks like I am recovering from Jaundice or something.

If we're talking about after purchase, then yes, members could curtail the critiquing a little, because you're right. The end user could feel bad about a purchase for no real reason. QC pics though; the pearl is one thing, but what about the missing "T?" The only way the REP factories will make a better product is if you demand it. The pearl issue seems to be just recently fixed to anywhere near, "naked eye" test, not any form of magnification. The pictures shown on the forum sometimes are SO large, that you could be talking about 10x magnification levels right there. Levels that, depending on your age, may not even be visible to you. Yes, some of this stuff will never be seen by you or anyone else. Some will though, and it can drive you crazy! To me, this OP is a little strange with the multiple different sets of pictures. .

You can find them all at BK's Garage http://www.rwg.cc/forum/196-bks-watch-garage/

What's the BK story, how does he mod it, how much is it and where do you get it? I just emailed my good close personal friend Trevor about this watch? I agree with Cougar about Rolex being a double edge sword, I originally was going Rolex, but exactly like he said, I thought that same thing. That is why I went with the P.O. Many people don't know any fine watch besides a Rolex.

Which one did you get? Cougar: Yea, you're right. Those watches are too much bling. The Sub on the other hand, simple & classic.

Damn, they still haven't released that thing? It must be driving you crazy. They're wearing them while out selling, "Street-Wise."

Those are nice watches. I personally like the Sub style, sport watches, and the presence is a must for what I do. I love the REP PO to death, it's my new lucky charm, but part of that is because of the price point. Wearing a $4,000 watch day to day, where there is a good chance of it getting F'd up, makes that option a lot less desirable. Yesterday, I would never have considered a GEN P.O., today, I am asking Cougar, "How much?"