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So the $64000 question.  How much can you get (eg) a rep Rolex for which is virtually indistinguishable from the real thing (until you take the back off of course).

For Rolex, you're not getting that level out of the box. Period. You need to go to a modder like TC or BK, and they're going to charge you $500.

Other brands like Panerai or Hublot, you can get something pretty good for around $300.

There's a difference between an Oyster Perpetual Date, which is an auto and still in production; and an Oysterdate, which is a handwind and was discontinued in the early '80s.

I just remembered one thing: is the size of the rep correct? I saw some gens at the AD and they look bigger somehow...hmmm

I just measured mine. 10:00 - 4:00, not counting the chrono pusher, is 45mm.

They do make 48mm models. Could that be it...?

 

The Hublot Big Bangs V6 are the closest you can get to gen (>95% accuracy on wrist in my humble opinion).

Just watch the 6:00 subdial. Some models have the wrong number of little "ticks" in-between the larger markers (4, the correct number is 3). It sounds like a small thing, but on a watch that has basically no other flaws on the top side it stands out.

1. Stop whining. It's Saturday, traffic is lower.

2. The Noob v3 is really good out-of-the-box. The major flaw is the Incabloc/swan-neck assembly, which is on the underside, so as long as it stays on your wrist nobody will see it. That's the part that Marlin works on. Not to bag on Marlin's business, but unless you're planning a ripoff sale I don't see the point.

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I don't know why people bother with reps of the OEM straps. For the same money, just get a Panatime.

It's totally normal in the Paneristi world to have a different strap, or a bunch of different straps. They put a screwdriver in the box, fercryinoutloud.

But on some level I get it, if you´r dumb enough to put out pictures where you claim to be rich and cool.. but showing a rep... -"right back at ya"

Exactly. Don't want to get busted? Don't put your rep on Instagram.

And again it shows how spoiled we are around here with our Super Ultimate 1:1s. There's stuff on there that this forum wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole.

That's a winner 

so they look pretty good. they have fooled alot of people. not like i am out there trying to fool anyone.

Oh, really?

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=334933

Didn't fool them.

(Pro tip: if you post the same pics on a gen site and a rep site on the same day, someone will notice. You're not the only one in the world who reads both.)

Where can i buy tc bracelet sir?

Buy it from TC.  Well, to be precise, ask TC if he'll sell you a bracelet separately.

Look under "TC Submariner" lower down on the front page.

The 1680 was the first Sub Date.

It depends on how easy or difficult the PRC government makes it to convert bitcoins into yuan. If it's too much trouble, they won't do it.

TC is a modder.  He takes the watches that the dealers provide and does additional work on them.  Obviously this is going to cost more than just getting one from a dealer yourself.  Only you can decide if the extra work is worth the extra money.

BK does the same.

cajun as I hope you are surmising close you can get, gonna fool somebody who works on movements NOT going to happen. Just get one that appeals to you and no big tells on the wrist. You need a Gen movement to get by a watch smith even then there are other tells inside so do yourself a favor do not focus on it.

Really the best that you can hope for out-of-the-box is passing the "five feet away" test: can someone standing five feet away from you look at your wrist and tell it's a rep?  If you let someone take a close look, it will get caught.

Thanks!

Link to RWI Panerai guide is broken.

There are the lower-end Germans: Aristo, Junkers, Graf Zeppelin, Laco (might be pushing it on the price), etc.

If you're wearing it regularly, it should only need to be wound when it's run down all the way and stopped.

As far as the date ... again, if it's on every day the date will keep up.  If you're planning on wearing it in rotation and resetting it a lot, then you might want to get it fixed.

You'll get an email with instructions on how to pay them.

 

 

My initial thought is fake because of the plastic wrap...

That was my first thought also.

There's no way to tell anything else from that one picture.

A few TAG Heuer signs too.  Obviously Rolex's "Official Timepiece of F1" contract isn't exclusive.

So if the difference between a swimmer and a strong swimmer can be 50% how does that pan out at different depths<br /><br />How is the difference measured? is there a formular that can be applied to speedxdepth= apparent pressure and if so is this based on a solid sphere or an irregular object with joins and seals?

You really do think I'm making this up, don't you?  OK.

The formula is:  Pressure change (in Pascals) equals one-half the density times the velocity squared.

1 Pascal = .00001ATM.  The density of fresh water is 1000kg per square meter, seawater is 1030kg/m^3.  Velocity is in meters per second.

Raising the pressure by 1ATM requires a velocity of 14.25m/s, which is 51km/h or 32mph.

Like I said, Physics 101.

Is that the scientific answer "2m" or just a guess

 

As far as i know people swim differently, i am sure Micheal Phelps can put more pressure than me on a watch when swimming

It's the scientific answer.  Anyone who passed Physics 101 could explain it to you.

Michael Phelps might get it up to 3m.

The idea that dynamic pressure multiplies the static pressure is just plain wrong.

Although just for lawyers it does have an a bit of common sence as we are not talking about pure depth when talking about water resistance as that only deals with static pressure but when swimming we have to think about the dynamic pressures the watch will experience <br />For example if you slowly get in the pool and sink 10 m then you will experience 10m of pressure <br />But even as you swim on the surface and drag the watch through the water with every stroke you could exceed 10m of pressure depending on how you swim just think of the difference de between a gentle breast stroke and a fast front crawl

The "dynamic pressure" thing is highly exaggerated.  At most, you're adding 2m worth.  You aren't physically capable of moving your arm fast enough to cause a problem.