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Unfortunately I don't have that equipment. I have old machine tools that do the job as well ! The one I used here is a sort of sanding treadmill, and the case is held by a custom made wood clamp.
Interesting! I am thinking about this since I made my 1016 build based on the JMB case set, last year.
It would be great to see pictures of the process or the tools
Maybe JMB might be able to do something like this lug mod on request in near future?!
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Nice build
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Excellent mod job, Rolojack!!!
How did you thin out equally all the lugs?CNC Lathe?
Wear it often and in good health!
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What a nice built!!!
You've got to tell the story about the case back?!
Wear it and enjoy it as often as you can and in good health
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Excellent surfaces!
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It was posted in a private listing by a Japanese vintage watch collector.
There is not much more information available (to me) than what I have posted.
Link?
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We have seen the Cartier, the Tiffany & Co. version, but personally the Hermes version has surprised me a bit.
Still a very rare find:
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Hands removing is a part of the "job" which can screw either the hands or the dial or both if not careful.
Look what I have seen some time ago on youtube*
This is how most watchmaker work, I´ve seen also some Japanese watchmaker working with this "banal sheet of nylon" on current Grand Seiko´s.
I personally place two sheets of these thin nylons over the dial, plus I cover all the tips of the hands remover (that may have direct contact with the hands) with small stripes of mask tape to be on the safer side.
Despite this one has to be always very careful as scratches can be done very easy.
You have done a splendid job on this build. Wear it often and in good health!
I guess this is the best combo without going over budget .
For the hands, I used those hands remover, the head of the tool is metal.. And scratched right away.
I need to upgrade my skill- 1
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Nice twins
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Darn Rick! Now all you need to do is learn how to post a few pics.
I'd love to hear more about the rep 9315- I'd love to run across one of those.
It certainly sounds like a cool build.
in fact I became curious about the final work too...
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... topic got interesting
John Mayer's threads on VRF:
apeared by accident as I follow VRF in FB
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What news!
I clearly remember seeing this http://vimeo.com/75349508´a while back. Was quite impressed and still am.
Any thoughts on the GMT is rep or gen?
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VERY nice ingredients,Tom.
Looking forward to the final result.
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That is pretty good looking so far, dainese!
Good luck on replacing the bezel assembly!
It should work as some folk around here have succeeded doing so.
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Hi all,
Further to this thread, I just finished a trial fit of franken parts into a V5 4813 case.
I had no issues whatsoever except I couldn't get the bezel to seat onto case. No matter what I did. It was so tough. Anyone know if this should be an issue or was I doing something wrong? The rep bezel came off so easy it was funny.
I even used the brass (?) movement holder but flipped the securing tabs upside down to get a better seat of ring against case.
The gen crystal pressed on fine but was almost too easy so I do question the water proof-ness.
The tube was screwed in and I used pliers to remove. From what I read epoxy is a good option to seating new tube (which I don't have yet).
I also noted that the version 3 case and rep crown used a shorter stem into the 2824 clone movement. The gen crown is 'shorter' and will require a longer stem.
Interesting progress!
Maybe you can post some pics?
Good luck on the final assembly, Dainese!
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That is a pretty nice build
I love the blue DJ's.
Wear it often and in good health
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Great, thank you very much LHOOQ!
It is simply amazing that we in this tiny community share our experiences and as result all following builds get better and better.
Here's Stilty's original post: http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/66391-a-few-pics-of-my-very-first-vintage-franken-project/?hl=%2B1016
There were several follow-up threads as he upgraded some parts e.g. the bracelet and the springbars. It's still a great Explorer franken today, but in 2008 it was mind-blowing.
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... Stilty and his landmark 1016 franken...
LHOOQ it would be great to see Stilty´s 1016 franken.
Can you post a link to that topic, please?
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Finally got the chance to congratulate on that excellent Explorer you built
I almost had forgotten about your 1016 built, but as soon as I saw the topic I surely first thought that you had ordered a gen.
Wouldn´t want to disclose the "super Franken" earlier as this built "fooled" almost all of us here on RWG.
Here is which two very minor details I found.
Great built, 1680!
Wear it often and in good health!
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Exceptional details, 1680!
I personally found two details that are for me a tell but that is only because I was involved partially and built one similar by myself using the same case!
As good as 99,99 % of us would not know about these.
Case:
I checked some DNA details of the JMB case. They were still present if not recognizable at first sight. But still, the JMB´s case is really well modded!
For those of us who have an eye for details and have a JMB case, looking at the inner side of the lugs, where they meet the case (upper side), there the stainless steel is filed down (from the manufacturing) a bit too much.
This is present on all JMB cases.
It does not disturb in any way, but it surely identifies the case as it can only be fixed by laser welding all four lugs and not all of us would do that on their builds.
1680´s 1016 Super Franken
other 1016 Built based on the same case
Hands stack:
The choice of the ETA 2782 is excellent!
The distance of the hour hand to the minute hand and seconds hand is more like a hands stack of a 1520 Movement. They are at almost an equall distance to each other.
A 1570 movement has the minute and seconds hand closer to each other, where the hour hand stays much lower.
1680´s 1016 Super Franken
Gen 1016
Personally have investigated a bit the cannon pinions heights.
Contrary to many believes I think the closest cannon pinion height to a 1570 is H3 for an ETA 2824. Though it still has all hands at equal distance to each other, but sets the hands stack at sufficient height over the dial. Height H4 would be too high above the dial, it works for Date complications as the dial need some distance to the date wheel.
Here is an example I have tested and currently have installed (ETA 2824 with H3 cannon pinions):
It is still a tell for those looking for that!
You can make the exact height a 1570 movement has by using H3 seconds pinion and H4 cannon pinions for the minute and hour, then precisely file down the heights of the minute and hour wheel to match the 1570 movement heights.
Great built, investigation, attention to details and write up, 1680!
Wear it often and in good health!
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A very nice, "timeless" (classic) beauty.
Enjoy her as often as you can and in good health
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This is how marketing is done the right way!
Those books are the " push to buy " button for sure.
Great literature, looking forward to flip some pages on these myself ...
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Turned out pretty nice!
Wear it often and in good health!
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What a watch! (equally the gen and the rep)
I recently had the chance to see the gen at my local AD and was impressed by the dial look and feel.
It felt a bit vintage yet contemporary, referring to the dial colour and matte texture.
Though I am missing a date complication. Wish the BB had a Date version like the Pelagos for example.
The gen seemed quite (somewhat) affordable by 2380 € ... if you compare to a gen DJ 16030 with papers from the 80´s, it costs that much and has all the 30+ years ageing on the case and bracelet.
But then if you rethink the overall package of the BB ... inside is ticking an ETA 2824 with a little cosmetic touch on the finish, nothing more ... the service costs shouldn´t be that much high?!
P.S. I have always been interested if the price for a watch service (movement only, clean re-lube) depends on from what price range the watch is ...
Interesting how much a service of the gen Black Bay would cost?
And then how much the service on a mid price range ETA 2824 based watch, without date complication would cost?
My 1016'd 1601
in The Rolex Area
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Great looking 1016, DVNE!
Those Yuki dials are quite good and are fair priced!
Wear it often and in good health