OI812

Not often....rule of thumb, SELL on EBay and BUY somewhere else.....at least when it comes to the actual watch. I've bought genuines on TZ, worn them for a year or so, then sold on EBay for a very nice profit. I've seldom seen a truly good buy on a fine watch on Ebay, but, every once in a while you can get a gem on the WIS sites.

Man, those are beautiful! I've owned quite a few genuines and IMOP they are the best value, or use to be the best value, in a fine watch. The Monte Carlo is the ultimate version. I've got to build myself one eventually.

Ditto that.

Just find yourself a good/reliable watchmaker and keep them oiled/serviced. I've run most of mine 24/7/365 for YEARS without a single failure. However, I keep the movements properly lubricated and I get the "good one's" serviced every 2 - 2.5 years +/-.......

Please allow me to join the discussion here,.

Even if i have made only few posts on this forum, i've been collecting (gen) watches and repairing them for many decades. This doesn't mean that i know it all, but..

The misaligning of the center chrono second hand after a reset is usually due to the hand sitting too loose on the shaft or the central tube coming loose from the hand.

It is a manufacturing tolerance and/or materials problem (The tube on "cheap" second hands are often made of soft and deformable metals and the quality of riveting both parts together is also very poor.. )

It was a very common on the old (gen) Russian chronographs. I used to fix them all the time, as they were manufactured in large quantities without much QC, a bit comparable to the reps we see today. On a high quality gen (with proper servicing) you will almost never see this happen... .

You could try to glue them (if the tube and hand have separated, that is.. I never glued the tube on to the central second shaft, because you may have to remove it later and it does not really remove the cause of the problem), but from my experience, there's only one way to solve this permanently: change the whole hand for a new one, with closer tolerances.

It should fit really thightly.

As far as using the chonograph function: if the watch is properly made, or if the hand has been fixed properly, there is no reason at all for resetting it only close to "12". It should return to zero whatever the stop and reset position is.

For a rep chronograph however, it is sound advise not to reset it too far from zero.. but it should not be like that ....

Just my 2 cts..

Regards,

Lewis.

Amen Lewis, you and I are a lot alike. I've owned over a dozen 7750 based chrono's and a couple of Zenith based and not ONE problem........EVER. In fact, I keep the chrono running 24/7/365 most of the time with all of them and, once again, never one problem. IMOP, in regards to quality chronograph movements, if you don't run them periodically you WILL have problems. Now, as for rep chrono movements, I'd say the 10 second rule is a very good one.

I agree with you also Robertk, Joshua has been great to me as well, no question about that.

Like I said though, "I didn't just make this shit up." But I will not get into it any further then I have already, out of respect.

I enjoy RWG and prefer to bring a positive attitude here then get involved in any drama if at all possible. I just want to share my enjoyment of the hobby with you guys.

I bought 6 watches from Josh for myself and a couple of buddies in one transaction a couple of years ago. (I'd probably purchased 3 or 4 before that from him) One was a ICHS GMT II and when it arrived the rotor was loose and apparantly had never been locked in place as it was just sitting there bouncing around when I opened the case. I emailed Josh and less than one week later I had a brand new modified ETA movement in my hands, at no cost. He's the best in my book.

Im in 4sure!!! BIG tudor fan!!!

//robi

I'd be interested too.....

the reason no one raises too big a stink about counterfiters is "you scratch my back, ill scratch yours" they have a symbiotic relationship, China produces prudcts in their factories for them cheap, and they let a bit of the double dipping gray market profit taking slide. the SECOND they try to shut it all down the chinese government will tell them to get the hell out of china, raising their labour costs signifigantly. they rather lose a bit of profit then have to re source where everything is built and made for much much more...and well the chinese government likes their national infrastructure growing...

Excellent points and all true, but, you tick off the right people and enough of em' your risking creating a lot of UNnecessary problems for a LOT of people. IF enough pressure were exerted our lil' hobby could be altered in ways that certainly wouldn't be positive. Plus, WHY antagonize when it's NOT necessary nor even "good form." (I don't know why anyone would brag about the quality of a rep on a genuine watch forum anyway, makes a person looks like an I D I O T when they do it) IMOP

Ok mimmosa has replied to this thread because I pointed him at it.

That said I also told him the problem was that he was linking to us and dealers.

I suggest you take that on board R and something else to think about I have a message for your straight from the top, can the attitude or else!

Ken

I've owned many genuines in my 26 years of collecting watches. (still own 3) The quality of the best reps continues to amaze me and I now have several good one's which I enjoy just as much as a genuine. What this guy needs to understand is this, when you go on a site inhabited by collectors of genuine watches (many of whom I occasionally visit) and start pointing out that the reps nowadays are virtually as good as their genuine article (in some cases they are virtually as good from a mechanical/looks standpoint) and which they paid a LOT more money to acquire your not going to stir up any "pleasant" feelings.

As a result, ALL that can occur are problems for the rep collector, etc. IMOP there is simply NEVER a good reason to poke a stick at a rattle snake. IF the good folk's that inhabit the genuine forums and who've invested a LOT of money in their watches start REALLY complaining to Rolex/Panerai/Omega, etc. these same manufactures can make a huge stink as they have the money/time/lawyers to do so, IF they really want to do so. I KNOW a LOT of genuine collectors and they are none to pleased about the "quality" rep's arrival into the marketplace and I'd imagine the makers of these same watches feel likewise.

Mimmosa

Please less of the silly fools bit please, yes people over react some times, because they like doing their thing, just keep this hobby and this site out of the limelight, it only takes one slip of the keypad and J C Beeever will be back in china frisking his work force looking for lost bezels, and yes that realy happened.

Fxr, unfortunately you can't legislate/dictate intelligence and common sense........this guy shows a remarkable lack of both IMOP......a lot of IMmaturity too.......

@ OI812

Glad you're enjoying it

The original builder was member Avira, I'd suggest PMing him to see about his source for the aftermarket band

I owe ya' Nick.......I'm beyond thrilled!

I recently purchased this watch from a member here a couple of weeks ago. www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=35247&hl=

When set side by side with a mid 90's 16613 it was indistinguishable. I'm sure with a loop and some time a small difference or two could be determined, but, without one it's not. IF not for the difference in the caseback we might have inadvertantly switched them. I have NO idea where the original builder/owner sourced the parts and the band, but, this band is DEAD ON. I'm currently on the search for a 3035 movement!

ONE thing I'm not sure that we've thought about is this.......

With the intro of the quality Panerai reps, that have sold and sold and sold...... the entire "rep market" has ridden the Pannie rep coattails.......meaning, IMOP, ALL reps have improved, or are improving, in quality/authenticity........seems the Chinese KNOW a good deal when they see one and are TRYING to improve almost all "make" of rep watches.......at least manufacture "quality" copies of Rolex/Omega/Panerai/IWC and after they realize the flaws.....improve them......

I NEVER thought I'd see a Rolex/Panerai copy that I couldn't spot from 3' away.......but NOT anymore with some of them.......the 111's......PO's......GMT's......they are gettin' damn close IMOP.......

So, IMOP, even if you don't care much for Panerai's you should be thankful they came along......

Got the same watch from a different seller......same experience........great watch!

I am trying to figure out whether his 7750's are truly ETA and whether they allow for date function at 9. They are priced fairly well. How does he get away with all those Rolex case reproductions?

Listed as "aftermarket" and NO Rolex on anything.......Rolex can't do a thing as long as their "trademark" isn't violated.....and from what I can see it isn't.......but a 7750 at his prices has to be a copy.....

Well said.....

TTK...i said that you were the slowest dealer that responded to my e-mail...but i was and i am very happy with your service...and i always said that in many posts...and in a dealer review in the old RWG i said that you are a great dealer...

regards,

Vladimir

If you haven't noticed......your now floating in a raft having been booted OFF the island.....

I got it this morning......shows a fake transaction on your Pay-Pal account involving "Luxury Watches".......which you obviously didn't do and then a "dispute this transaction" button........then asks for a shitload of information which conveniently contains your credit card #'s, etc.........

Folk's, this thing looks very, very real......almost spooky......and a person could easily be fooled......be careful!

Yes, i've noticed the same.

Probably because they can "modify" the 2836 for GMT functions, etc........

I would appreciate this information as well...Thanks in advance

Man, I've NEVER had a problem with any of my Tudor chronos.....and I run the chrono 24/7/365......thats what they are for........to run.......

Riveted Oyster genuine to this watch?? No pics of the clasp??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-RED-SUBMARINER_W...1QQcmdZViewItem

Personally I think that is one COOOOl lookin' timepiece!

Get some "Oxi-Clean" and mix it in HOT water......repeat every 5 - 10 minutes with fresh HOT water and fresh soap.......in 2 hours you'll have the coolest looking watch you've ever seen! IMOP

Doesn't matter where its built.........Movement, movement, movement......its ALL in the movement......(as I'm sure you know).......pay the extra bucks if you can and get a quality movement....ETA, etc......OR buy a watch that you can easily swap out the movements......then learn where O'frei is.......

Received Yesterday. I know that ít´s not perfect but i love it. Quartz Movement. Opinions?

Neil´s Choice

Genuine

I think its a beautiful watch.......don't know why they cannot figure out a way to make quartz act like an auto........

I'm in for 3.......