Grimlocktime

Hey guys, as a father of several .... (More than a few).... i know what my buddy Ogladio is going through... i volunteer to head up the coordination of the PVD run to get this moving. I will get with Rolli and Ogladio to get all of the necessary information and list of those members who are interested but in the mean time, feel free to PM me!

Time for an update!!!

We'd love to see some pics.

Seriously though, if you have this dial relumed with a nice grainy tritium yellow colored lume, it would be extremely close to gen. It is one of DSNs best. It's a shame he doesn't make it any longer.

Only considering readily available parts - Case set: H Factory V1 or KW is the best. Either version has a more correct lugshape for the 6502 than the noob. Crown/Tube: DSN Pre-V, is the absolute best besides gen. It has gotten even better recently with a improved level of surface finish and polish. CG: Sead is a direct fit to H factory cases. but Fu, Eddie Lee or Honpo modded with a Sead lever are the best ever made. Crystal: DSN new high grade crystal, almost gen like clarity Caseback: certain versions of DSN have the most accurate engravings available, even better than Jakob.

You're correct. The old versions of DSNs 205/A and 218 are better than his current offerings. Still the best are the FGD dials.

Many thanks gentleman!!! I appreciate the kind words. I just wore this watch yesterday and I enjoy it more and more as time goes on. Pre-V is what pulled me into the hobby and what keeps me there.

Email DSN davidsenjpn@yahoo.com It's not a cheap watch, but well worth it with a genuine Swiss 2892-A2 equipped with a Soprod 9040 (or modified 9035) module. You can't go wrong. Enjoy

How do you keep coming across these great parts??? Hard to tell if it's gen... The noob is a great case!!! But the dead giveaway will be the presence of machining marks inside the lugs.

Uuuuhhhhh.... The 36 is a T SWISS T dial. The service dials are L SWISS L. Both are correct. This is a gen or st least a very nice Franken. http://www.9maiali.com/m/product-panerai-pam-036-b-luminor-marina-militare-titanium-44mm-t-dial-se-200-pc/

I'm not so sure this is a fake. The watch looks genuine to me including the dial, movement, caseback, crown, crown guard. It could very well be that this watch was sent in for service with a heavily damaged case, which would have been replaced with a service case with no serial number. Additionally, there are a few examples of L SWISS L PAM036 floating around out there. Now... The fiddy certificate???? Hmmm not so sure about why that is being paired up with this package.

Please Southy!!!! One more run of these "museum pieces". My 203/A museum grade dial has a special place among my collection. I'd love the opportunity to have one of two more. The indices.... A work of art Here's the gen. Amazing!!!!

You mean a depth gauge or a compass?

You got the cheap 21 jewel version. You should have paid 80-100. Only order from trusted dealers.

Lovely.... Wow But seriously you'd have to be a special person to actually mount and wear this strap.

The Mario Paci tantalum Kodiak (khaki tan) in your first picture. Perfect with titanium and tobacco. http://www.tcstraps.com/collections/original-kodiak/products/prevmp_tantalum_ss Heres a similar strap on Rollis epic 036

Okay... You don't like the dial.... So don't buy it. Can we move on now?

001/004 A Series for me;)

Agreed. Don't wast your time with a rep box. If you enjoy the style of the gen box, get on the gen forums and wait until one comes up for sale.

Well said FGD and Kilo. As a Franken builder and modder I am always seeking things to make my watches special. To take them to the next level. And the Rolli/FGD dials more than suceed in that mission. I have a tremendous amount of reverence and repect for the amount of time and MONEY that's invested by R and S in these projects. If you feel the need to troll or poke the bear keep that in mind. How would you feel if you had just invested tens of thousands of Euro and years developing contacts to produce these gorgeous dials... Probably a little defensive. Let's keep it positive (on both sides) and have a little respect for the effort invested.

V, my friend, I know the dial I quoted above is an 005 dial. But it is indicative of the early 2000s era Panerai dials that had thicker indicies. The more recent versions are definitely thinner and more uniform. Case in point on the dial Abba posted. Is Rollis dial thicker than the gen of that era? It appears so, but I can get by that because I know the quality of Rolli and FGDs efforts. They are truly every bit as high quality as a genuine dial. I have held many. We've gotta keep in mind these aren't some back door, [censored], dime-a-dozen rep dials. These are the result of an extreme commitment of time and resources on behalf of a few very motivated collectors. They have succeeded in producing a dial on par in quality and standards with the genuine dials. For serious collectors and builders, this should be celebrated. Those that can discern the value will buy and enjoy, those that can't wont. Congrats to Rolli and FGD. Once again beautiful work. Looking forward to many more projects to come. (Especially a 1A or 22b hint;) )

This was a limited run that sold out quickly last year. I love DSN as a parts supplier, but you are better off with an old Unitas pocket watch movmement for a Pre-V build. Just the way the Panerai Gods intended.

Interesting... What I see here in these pictures is different gen dials, with different thickness of font, numbers and indexes, no doubt from different years of production. The pictures you show prove Rolli's and FGD's point. Thanks for sharing them.

That looks like a Dirk Tan or Cognac. One of the best straps ever. Buttery soft, gorgeous leather. As far as the dial.... Wow, you might as well be holding a gen. For those of us without easy access to genuine dials, Rolli has given a gift, worth every penny.

For cases that are still pretty easy to find... I have to say that the NOOB N Series V3 is the best. I honestly think the 111M is the best option I have ever seen based on the sample that I reahaped for my 201/A build. The lugs were perfect straight out of the box with no modification