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paulvillo

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  7. Rep movements..........

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by paulvillo

    Thanks for sharing it here Mike!

    I have a brand new 389P that arrived faulty, stopping from time to time not keeping enough PR over a day, so I had my WS regulating it for over a week but sometimes it's just no good. I'll suggest him the removal of the bridges… :)

  14. Bad experience with member bangalter

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Word of caution on using item not received, oldest trick in the book is to send a package with tracking that shows delivered. Then when buyer files dispute it turns into a he said/she said situation with no simple resolution. Besides as has been said, it's only been a week since he went no show, new rules with pp allow for up to 6 months for filling disputes so you've got time.

    jpz can you please elaborate a bit more on that trick? Thanks

  17. Over-winding Asian 6497 Movement(21,600bph)

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted · Edited by paulvillo

    I would say that is a dirty main spring issue, can be easily fixed by replacing it with a Swiss new 6497/2 main spring and barrel

    Sorry FxrAndy just saw your reply.

    Thanks but got it repaired.

    Don't know how to explain what he did but seems the stem was longer than necessary (it broke when the lugs came loose and the watch fell).

    I saw him replace it and "glue" a new one to the crown and voilà 65/70 smooth turns are back.

    Edit: I might switch to gen ETA movements, but first let's see how long it'll last.

    Sent from my iPad Air

  20. Over-winding Asian 6497 Movement(21,600bph)

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted

    No disrespect..but two points:

    - that Rad has a closed caseback, so who cares if the movement is engraved or not?

    - if your watchmaker can't see that he has an Asian copy of Unitas when working on it, you need to find another watchmaker, and quick. If you ever try your luck and work on disassembly of Asian copy vs Swiss, and then try to put them both together, you will know what I mean. I am not watch smith by any degree of imagination, but I tinker enough with unitas movements to be able to tell the difference without any issue, unless it is swinese etc.

    As others said, just get a replacement movement for $50 or better still, get the whole new watch and keep this one for spares as with reps you will def need some sooner or later...this is still 800$ cheaper as compared to Panerai doing service on gen version of that watch.

     

    Thanks for elaborating.

    You may be right as I'm no DIYer.

    I am new to the rep world and this was my first rep, hence my cry for help.

     

    Having acquired almost a dozen genuine Rolexes, APs, Cartiers, Panerais and B&R in the past 10 years I assure you I am very well aware of Genuine investment. Specially where I live, where everything costs twice as much as where you live. The very same 292 that goes for less than € 6.500 in Firenze (with VAT return, I'm no citizen) is sold here for € 11.000

     

    First I don't know how big the service was, or what did my WS had to do to revive it, as I couldn't care less.

    Second, the rep world (forum wise) is completely unknown here and I am pretty sure he'd never held a "super rep" or "first class high level rep" in his hand. So to my belief, having spent over $50k with him alone when he was an AD might have contributed to a "hmmm this movement seems wrong..." kind of thinking followed by a "not this guy" straight answer in his mind. Whatever.

     

    In a simple way, I came here to find out information and knowledge about the issue with such movement or if anyone had some similar problem to share their situation and solutions. Not looking for obvious statements such as get a new movement or buy a new rep, neither to brag about anything.

    Unsuccessfully so far. And no disrespect.

  21. Over-winding Asian 6497 Movement(21,600bph)

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted

    A6497 are about $30-40 to buy new.... you do the maths :inverted:

     

    They won't come with proper engravings, so to me there's no point of buying a new movement as it kills the romance (not the math) of buying a rep.

    My watch smith charged $80 for the repair is because he was sure he had a gen in his hands.

    And for two simple reasons, I believe. First because he sold me half a dozen gens for the past 10 years, so an 8k Panerai was no surprise to him (he was not searching for flaws as we do here).

    Second, and most important, this replicas are absolutely AMAZING and able to trick the most experienced and talented WS/AD and I do not mean to ruin that for a couple bucks. Oh, yeah, he retired 3 years ago and opened his own repair center.

     

    I could obviously replace the movement, like a flat tire.

    And thank you but I'm looking for a more elaborate input on the matter, that is, if anyone ever had similar issues and even care to share at all.

    All the best mate.

  24. Over-winding Asian 6497 Movement(21,600bph)

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted

    Hey guys, I'm bumping this because it seems the closest situation to what I'm about to report.

     

    Last August I purchased from a TD a PAM292J H-Fac with the 21,600bph Asian 6497 movement.

    A few weeks after moderate usage, while winding I noticed resistance coming faster (less rounds) than before.

    Then did my research here and decided to take it to my watch smith.

    But as soon as I got there, the watch kinda got back to "normal" and properly winded, so he didn't even open it assuming it was probably my fault.

    I did find some resistance here and there, but decided I could live with it.

     

    Couple months later, I experienced the infamous RADs crappy lug/screw problem and the watch fell off of my wrist from about 6ft high...

    Besides getting a scratched crown and dented lugs, the dial got loose inside the case and the watch wouldn't wind anymore. DEAD.

    I then took it back to my (very experienced) watch smith who revived it for less than $80.

     

    Now, 3 months later the watch is hard to wind, again.

    Winded it last Saturday doing thumb/forefinger BACKWARD movements in between forwards and it lasted almost 56 hours (didn't count rounds).

    Yesterday I did count 27 thumb/forefinger forward-only pushes, which gave me a 26-hour charge.

     

    Well, I just did ridiculous 16 thumb/forefinger forward pushes and started to feel resistance..... :hammer:

    The only way I can do more rounds is to wind it back and forth!!!

    By doing so am I overwinding it? (or have I already?)

    Has anyone seen anything like this before?

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