Wise words as always from some experienced members. I for one was scammed because I was "greedy", well actually it was because the watch never comes up for sale and is discontinued with our TD's. So, when it became available, I had to take the chance. The guy was selling to others and has some good feedback, even then I paid the PayPal fees as he wouldn't. Was I nieve: no, trusting and willing to take the chance: yes. I think what I learned was as has been said before, buy the seller, and never use PayPal gift.