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OK so I'm working on my first build from scratch. Its a Datejust 16000 I have a gen case and bracelet and tube for that matter but my question is this, when it comes to the crown can you tell a difference between a good (say MMM) crown and a Gen crown? Is it that big of a deal? as the Gen's on ebay are in the $100+ price range and rep is quite a bit cheaper. I personally am having a hard time telling the difference between them. The only thing that I can think of is possibly the number of ridges on the coin edge of the crown? I notice when browsing through the classifieds here that many people upgrade to gen what is the benefit? Sorry if this is a dumb question I tried searching the forum for an answer and came up empty.

The dial is gen I picked it up on Ebay and the rest is all MMM 18K overlay bezel and the bracelet has the hollow gold midlinks. The movement is high grade asian 2836-2. I have a Gen buckle I will probably swap out. But like I say the rest of it, Matt has his own source. I honestly don't really care about how "gen" everything is as it looks awesome to me and I have NO plans on ever getting rid of it. Its exactly what I wanted and especially because it fit my budget.

I got my watch from Mymanmatt yesterday and I love it! I will let you be the judge...sorry for the crap pictures I will take some better ones later this week I just did this at my desk at work with my phone. Sorry for the angles, I was trying to show off the pyramid dial. I owned the Gen version of this 15 years ago and I have to say I am quite happy with Matts work!

gotcha, thats what i figured thanks for the reply

Does anyone know what type of movement this might be?

I love that band with the Union Jack where did you get it?

Thank you that is awesome!

Would you happen to have a link? I cant find it on pure-time site? or anywhere else for that matter...I love it I think its a beauty and I need one asap! Thanks

I'm thinking of ordering the watch below as it already comes with a "gold wrapped" bracelet. I have purchased a gold wrapped bracelet from riyii and LOVE it for my TT Sub and I'm just wondering if anyone know if Andrews are of the same quality? Also I have a gen dial, that would be able to be swapped out with this watch fairly easily I'm hoping correct? As always thanks for the input! http://www.ttw8888.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_12&products_id=437

for those of you who say its obviously fake.....not to everyone, to you guys who have been doing this for years maybe. I have no friggin idea what I'm looking at when I try to tell the difference between gen and rep? Believe me I'm trying to learn. For instance I have a sub I bought from Andrew @ Trusty ...I'm sitting here looking at it and looking at watches on ebay or even the Rolex website .....what the hell am I looking for? They look virtually identical to me. Maybe the rep is a little thicker? maybe the crown looks slightly different? I am not saying any of this as a smart ass I honestly want to know what to look for and to learn the difference. I have a rep from about ten years ago....a datejust and yeah I can for sure tell the difference from it and a gen...the date window has no magnification, and it obviously looks and feels cheap...but I bought my Mom a ladies datejust and we put it next to my Aunt's gen and I couldnt tell them apart aside from the rotor inside the rep was noisier. Anyway thanks again for all the help and input as usual you guys are a wealth of knowledge

Lesson learned for sure, I contacted the seller and he said he didn't know what he had and that he got it at an estate sale blah blah blah...anyway sale cancelled, lesson learned. I really appreciate all the input as I'm very new to the hobby but also very eager to learn what to look for. Again thanks for all the responses.

Yeah I figured it was a rep but I'm pretty new to this so I cant tell just by looking...I haven't paid for it yet I'll contact the guy and see about backing out.

I saw it with like 3 minutes to go and figured I would take a shot

I just picked this up on Ebay and now having second thoughts. I'm not 100% sure of what to look for but do you think its a miracle and I got a Gen? If its a rep I'm sure the guy selling it knew but I thought it might be worth it for the case if and maybe the movment if Gen but I'm kinda doubting it now. I think if you put the item number in the ebay search bar it will pull it up item # 261748148648 Thanks for the help

google "riyi002 ebay" and you can get to his ebay page that way I couldnt find him either using the ebay search for some reason..but I did just email him and ordered my band quick and painless! I cant wait to get it!

Great thank you very much!

I'm just wondering if anyone has tried one of these bands? and if they are worth the money over a gold plated model? I'm looking to get a nice Two Tone Sub and was thinking of replacing the band with one of these as the Gen band is a bit out of my price range right now. Its also something that I would like to wear every day or at least a few times a week and don't want to have to worry about the gold wearing off too soon. I have an Invicta thats gold plated and its literally worn off after wearing it about 5 times. Anyway as usual your experience is always appreciated. Below is the Ebay link http://www.ebay.com/itm/201243261437?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Wow you both make a lot of sense. Honestly a Daytona may just be too much for my first attempt. I need to do a bit more research. I have just been infatuated with the Paul Newman Daytonas for years but I think I might need quite a bit more experience before I try to tackle a project like this. Maybe I can start with trying to build a Franken sub I really appreciate all the information, you guys are leaps and bounds beyond my knowledge base but I have to say this is one addictive hobby. Thank you again

Who has the best vintage Daytona? Preferably a 6241? I'm looking for something as close to original as I can get to start with. It will be what I hope to be my first "franken" project. I would like to have a fully functional chrono but not sure if that is as important to begin with as the case and bracelet? My long term..and I mean fairly long term as when I can slowly save money to buy Gen parts...long term goal is to fit it with a swiss Valjoux movement and work on the crystal and bracelet etc.. from there. So I guess my question is can you point me in the direction of the best base I can get for the money? Thank you so much for your help and expertise as always

I came across this the other day its ss and 14k can anyone tell me from what time period it comes from maybe what watch band# and or what it might be worth? It may be hard to tell from the pics but the only 14k part is the little Rolex symbol.

Thanks for the answers. I did look on ebay but those gen dials are a little more than I was wanting to spend I'm really just looking for something to play around with at first and the Datejust I have Is really just a pos, I took the bezel off and the crystal and bezel are connected. I think I may go a different route as I have an older invicta that has a Miyota 8215 movement in it I think that should be something I can work with...I hope without messing it up too bad. Any way Thanks for your responses and Its great to meet you guys.

I have been searching the threads and looking at many dealer websites and It seems like there are plenty of Submariner dials out there but is there a site that has Datejust or other dials and bezels? I am new to the forum, and am so glad I found you guys I didn't know this world existed until I happened upon it. I have been blind and now I can see! I think I have been sitting in front of this computer for three days straight now just reading everything that I can. I have made some unfortunate purchases in the past...most recently from Ioffer.com, I'm still waiting on that one to arrive and hopefully I can use it for parts which brings me around to my original question, I have a pretty crappy rep, the case seems ok but I would like to change the dial as it says Dayjust and looks like its made of plastic. I was hoping to practice with it, swapping the dial, hands, crown etc...can someone point me to a good source for parts please?