norbert

Never mind EL. Love this reply. All the best! Your first post was actually quite funny !!

Well TTK! Although I have never bought a watch with you, you seem to be the kind of dealer who runs the replica business as it should be !!! Alone by your "10 reasons" post I can tell that you agree with my last post

I noticed the -lemming like- tendency on this board to glorify dealers early on. They sit somewhere in Singapore or China and live a nice life making enourmous profits on faked watches. We are experiencing a small time window, where plagiats from China can reach the rich countries via internet. The dealers make good money and the customers in Europe/America get a pretty watch to impress their mates. Even a nice hobby has generated out of this This positive vibe should not cover that dealers should deliver a decent quality and should check their products. A lot of those just act as a mediator between the factory in China and the customer in America. Those -high end dealers- we talk about here insist on calling their fakes REPLICAS and therefore accept that the result should be -near perfect-. So do not complain if your customers expect -near perfect- I agree to all this but in the end it is all business. We pay good money (and 200 USD would feed the Chinese producer of the watch quite a while) and expect something good. The recent tendency from the board to belittle buyers complaints annoys me. So does the arrogance of some dealers who have no hesitation to make fun of their customers...those customers who give them a nice life in Singapore or Shanghai. The most I get annoyed by "independent" board members who constantly take side for the dealers, regardless what and treat the buyers like fools. I made good business in the past with different dealers and I had good and bad experiences. I believe that this board is a phantasic source of knowledge in the rep market.

Crap post and arrogant too. If you guys try to sell chinese fakes for 200 USD+ with a nice profit you should take your customers more serious and not reveal your -I dont care about those idiots!" character with posts like that. If the quality of your fakes is so poor as the numbers and variety of posts suggest---sit down and improve yourself instead of pencelling annoying posts like that

Have a look at this, quite stunning THIS

Forums are Forums! And as the word says (latin for market square) you will find all sorts of people, opinions etc. And that is the real value of this forum. it is beyond me why people on this Forum permanently lecture others "how to use the forum properly"

Have a look here

We are of the same kind mate. I have a 111H and I also directly replaced the strap and the screws!!

With the introduction of wrist size dive computers, the future of proper diving watches is more than dubious. PAM, Sub, Seamaster are all produced for the wrist of the rich and will never see the bottom of the sea. A flair of ridiculous (like in 4x4 cars) is sneaking in

The tendency in replica watches in the moment is to spend 90% of the effort and money for the movement (like the Swiss Unitas, 2892, 7753 etc), concentrate on idiotic little things in the movement like -non functioning swan necks AND then keep give aways like -cheap screws- -cheap bracelets and straps which directly makes the whole watch look cheap and fake !!!

Does anybody know, if we can expect a good quality Replica of the Panerai Ferrari range soon from our trusted dealers?

After my discussion on the Omega Seamaster, Joshua got involved and, being the real gentleman, we all know he is, he has offered to take the watch back and refund without any question. (But...as I have mentioned in previous mail, I will not take this offer, because I like the new arrangement with the blue sharkleather strap from Don) I have to re-join the people who regard Joshua in the highest order

Will do. The overall discussion was allright, though. cheers N

After my discussion on the Omega Seamaster, Joshua got involved and, being the real gentleman, we all know he is, he has offered to take the watch back and refund without any question. (But...as I have mentioned in previous mail, I will not take this offer, because I like the new arrangement with the blue sharklether strap from Don) I have to re-join the people who regard Joshua in the highest order

Thanks for joining in By-Tor!! I was hoping that you would participate as the real Omega rep expert. We were discussing this fact earlier C(HRONO 903 "I know what you mean but, the omega pins are not split pins, they are solid pegs that fit into a sleeve.") So I double checked and the one I have actually has got screws and not pins that look like screws