apollo22 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I always had the impression, and it has also been discussed on this forum before, that one of the tell tale signs of a REP AP ROO is that the date is too far to the right, and that there is a gap of around 1mm on the GEN between the date and the rehaut, while the REP has no gap at all, until I saw this auction photo on the Bay.....a F series AP ROO Rubberclad; This is a photo of the GEN (look at the date, it is all the way right close to the rehaut!!) I first thought it might be a rep until I saw the non-aligned crown and pushers, an indication that this is a GEN. And here are some photos from our REP dealers.....the date is also all the way to the right, next to the rehaut And finally here are some photos of a few GENs - see the gap? So it seems, depending on which series, some AP ROOs would feature a gap while some does not. Not that this little detail bug me but just thought I share this little interesting observation with you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Very, very interesting, apollo! Now if only they'd made the crown to be non-aligned with the pushers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z3k0 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Sorry to disappoint you, but I would say that watch in first 3 pics is NOT gen - probably position of crown and pushers look gen-like because of angle of photo. Look just at size of hour and minute hand tubes on this thing, thickness of print on 6 and 12 subdials, and of course position of date window. AFAIK, all rubberclads still have 2326/2840 movement, so chance is very small that position of datewindow would be significantly different on different series. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 What they said. The first one is a rep. There should be a full "bar" of the textured dial in between the date and the inner bezel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBison Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 +1 looks like a rep to me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADRED7 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 ....and further more to stress the fact that the watch on pics #1-3 is rep...look at the poorly made screw-heads on the bezel....do you really beleive that AP will have such a watch pass QC? Look at the cut in the screw....it runs not straight but diagonal Anyway, thanks for pinting this out.... Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo22 Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 This is getting interesting, so this could be a REP? There are a couple more photos of this auction, but a little too tedious to post them here, so here's the link. http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDEMARS-PIGUET-ROYAL-...3A1%7C294%3A200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 ....and further more to stress the fact that the watch on pics #1-3 is rep...look at the poorly made screw-heads on the bezel....do you really beleive that AP will have such a watch pass QC? Look at the cut in the screw....it runs not straight but diagonal Anyway, thanks for pinting this out.... Theo I suppose it's GEN, bud they budly mounted the bezel after a not official repair or service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimede Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 AP rep, another scam on the bay ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosk Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yup pics 1-3 are definitely rep. http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic....f=9&t=55041 there is a direct gen / rep comp on DS that shows this very well. I have a gen dial and the date window is exactly in the same spot as the rep. The issue is more with the inner bezel ring on the rep covering too much area. Pic borrowed from above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo22 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) Woooh!!.....how interesting! So what do we have here? a US$500 rep sitting on the Bay with a "Buy It Now" price of US$11,500!! Wonder if the seller knows he got a rep in his hands? Edited July 21, 2009 by apollo22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimede Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Woooh!!.....how interesting! So what do we have here? a US$500 rep sitting on the Bay with a "Buy It Now" price of US$11,500!! Wonder if the seller knows he got a rep in his hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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