timeflies Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Does the rep Datejust with Roman numerals and Datejust with stick markers have lume applied to them? If so, what kind, where is it applied, and is it adequate to your needs? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllergyDoc Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 To the best of my knowledge, Roman numerals: NO Stick markers: some yes and some no. Adequate? Not likely. Not on a rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverG Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well said AllergyDoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeflies Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 To the best of my knowledge, Roman numerals: NO Stick markers: some yes and some no. Adequate? Not likely. Not on a rep. Reading through some of the more trust worthy and respected rep vendor sites, I find they are always touting how "accurate" their products are; "just like the original" and "most accurate out there." Some even offer special upgrades to make their watches more accurate. WHY wouldn't an application of a quality lume be something that would be a simple upgrade??? I mean, if it costs a little more money, why not pass the cost on to the buyer? If someone doesn't want people to know he/she has a rep, the lack of lume would be a dead give away. Come to think of it, maybe the gen models of the reps mentioned above didn't come with lume???????? HELP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverG Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Reading through some of the more trust worthy and respected rep vendor sites, I find they are always touting how "accurate" their products are; "just like the original" and "most accurate out there." Some even offer special upgrades to make their watches more accurate. WHY wouldn't an application of a quality lume be something that would be a simple upgrade??? I mean, if it costs a little more money, why not pass the cost on to the buyer? If someone doesn't want people to know he/she has a rep, the lack of lume would be a dead give away. Come to think of it, maybe the gen models of the reps mentioned above didn't come with lume???????? HELP!! You're missing the point. If the gen has lume, then the rep factories apply lume to the rep dials. If there is no lume on the gen models, then they do not apply lume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I believe both the stick and numeral versions both have a dot of lume on the dial above the top of each marker. There is another variant of the DateJust which has large rectangular markers, and those are all lume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockwerkgoblin Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Reading through some of the more trust worthy and respected rep vendor sites, I find they are always touting how "accurate" their products are; "just like the original" and "most accurate out there." Some even offer special upgrades to make their watches more accurate. WHY wouldn't an application of a quality lume be something that would be a simple upgrade??? I mean, if it costs a little more money, why not pass the cost on to the buyer? If someone doesn't want people to know he/she has a rep, the lack of lume would be a dead give away. Come to think of it, maybe the gen models of the reps mentioned above didn't come with lume???????? HELP!! The best answer i've found on the forums is: The material for making lume (superluminova/tritium etc. etc.) is very costly and pound-for-pound, is worth more than its weight in gold. Due to the working conditions and socio environment of the factories, most factories won't trust it's sweatshop underage, and underpaid staff with such an expensive/valuable commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 The best answer i've found on the forums is: The material for making lume (superluminova/tritium etc. etc.) is very costly and pound-for-pound, is worth more than its weight in gold. Due to the working conditions and socio environment of the factories, most factories won't trust it's sweatshop underage, and underpaid staff with such an expensive/valuable commodity. I wouldn't call it the best answer, but certainly interesting I would suspect that the reason why factories don't use the best lume, is because the majority of their customers likely don't care about if their watch glows like a torch. Forum members make up a very small percentage of those factory-sales, so it's simply not worth their [the factory] while to pay extra, for a cost the average Joe Sixpack isn't going to want to pay on a market stall... Supply and Demand is the issue here, or to be more precise, profit and loss... Also, with regards the 'underage' issue, I think it is more likely to see children in factories snapping circuit boards into a DVD player, than it would be to see them constructing a mechanical watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raijor Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I have owned a few gen Datejusts and the two newer ones with Roman style markers had no lume. I owned a 2001 Pyramid dial and a 1999 Rhodium dial. The older stick marker dial versions had a dot of lume as described by Tee Jay. The Datejust comes with many dial options. There are dial version where Roman markers are printed on the dial and the face is like an old clock and these dials have no lume. I have seen factory diamond dials at authorized dealers that also lack lume. With the Datejust it is difficult to generalize with accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I have owned a few gen Datejusts and the two newer ones with Roman style markers had no lume. I owned a 2001 Pyramid dial and a 1999 Rhodium dial. The older stick marker dial versions had a dot of lume as described by Tee Jay. The Datejust comes with many dial options. There are dial version where Roman markers are printed on the dial and the face is like an old clock and these dials have no lume. I have seen factory diamond dials at authorized dealers that also lack lume. With the Datejust it is difficult to generalize with accuracy. You're quite right about the Roman numeral dials lacking lume, I thought I had seen them with lume, but I must have imagined it, so I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeflies Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 You're quite right about the Roman numeral dials lacking lume, I thought I had seen them with lume, but I must have imagined it, so I stand corrected Thanks, it makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllergyDoc Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Here is one from Andrew advertised as having "thick lumi" markers and 10 mil thick gold wrapping: That's about as "lumi" as a DJ gets. (Still, it's rep lume, so who knows how bright it will be?) http://www.tt88time.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_12&products_id=1331 Not a bad looking watch for $248. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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