Need help deciding what movement I needI want to get a "spare" movement for my new "noobmariner" as it's current movement seems to be stopping at rand

[jmb]

I want to get a "spare" movement for my new "noobmariner" as it's current movement seems to be stopping at random times. Externally is there any way to tell if I need to order a 2813 or 4813 movement? I would like to retain the same set of hands as well. I'm not interested in "upgrading" to a high-beat movement as this is intended as my daily/"beater" watch.

I've never swapped a movement but I guess I'll need a case back opener (sticky-ball on order), jewelers screwdrivers (have), hand puller, (will buy), and something to get the hands poked back on correctly (will need). Anything else?

[FxrAndy]

A 2813 will do you fine but a miyota 8215 will last longer, what else you will need will be rodico to clean dust ect (my favorate for picking up an holding hands while i reposition them), peg wood but for starting out you may be ok with some toothpicks, a dust blower, a movement holder, eye loupe, patience, silicone grease for regreasaing gaskets, tweasers (i love dumont number 2s) and more patience.

If you have any questions or need any help please let me know or any of the board for that matter i am sure we can help.

[jmb]

I may not need to do this. I have discovered, and had it confirmed by the seller, that this particular watch often has issues like this when the crown is cranked down very snug. Apparently the stem pushes in too far and puts some of the works into a bind. After resetting mine this morning and not getting overzealous with the crown it's ran flawlessly all day.

I may still get a movement to play with, however, and order some tools...

Thanks for responding.

[FxrAndy]

I had has a similar problem in a noob case on a project i was working on a couple of years ago, i shortend the stem a touch and it solved the problem

Contary to popular belive you dont need to tighted a screw down crown with mole grips to make them water proof, just snug will do,

(not a dig at you just informationa for all)

[jmb]

Well, there seems to be more problems with this movement so I have ordered both a 2813 and a 4813 movement from Cousins since they were pretty cheap. My hand remover and sticky-ball should be here at about the same time as the movements. I would like to put in the 4813 unless if it's a direct (or near) swap. I can then use this noobmariner movement to "learn" on and, who know, I might even be able to figure out what's wrong with it!

[FxrAndy]

I think the only thing you need to do that is not straight forward is the date wheel overlay