Good dealer for a PAM 177 in the UK

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First post. Apologies in advance if i'm breaking any rules.

Any recommendations for where I can pick up a good, real titanium PAM 177 and 240 in the UK?

I would also be hugely appreciative if anyone can suggest what I should look to avoid.

From what I've read I gather DSN supplies the best titanium cases - is that correct? Does he ship to the UK and are there any pitfalls in doing that?

Trusty Time seem to offer two versions of the 177 at $178 and $350 odd. Is the more expensive rep considerably better? Both are within budget. again, any pitfalls in shipping to the UK?

Help greatly appreciated.

[Frankie]

First post. Apologies in advance if i'm breaking any rules.

Any recommendations for where I can pick up a good, real titanium PAM 177 and 240 in the UK?

I would also be hugely appreciative if anyone can suggest what I should look to avoid.

From what I've read I gather DSN supplies the best titanium cases - is that correct? Does he ship to the UK and are there any pitfalls in doing that?

Trusty Time seem to offer two versions of the 177 at $178 and $350 odd. Is the more expensive rep considerably better? Both are within budget. again, any pitfalls in shipping to the UK?

Help greatly appreciated.

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Talk to PT at http://www.precioustime-uk.com/. I buy most of my reps off him, He ships from the UK (London) and is a top guy to deal with. Delivery is within 2 weeks normally and the quality is superb as is his after sales backup.

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Talk to PT at http://www.precioustime-uk.com/. I buy most of my reps off him, He ships from the UK (London) and is a top guy to deal with. Delivery is within 2 weeks normally and the quality is superb as is his after sales backup.

Thanks. I have seen his site. No sign of a 177 unfortunately. I have emailed but no reply. Is he normally qutie good at replying to mails?

[PeteM]

Narikka is another UK dealer. But to be honest you shouldnt be to hung up on UK dealers most dealers offer a replacement or 50/50 if lost in customs. I have ordered a few things from DSN without issue and from trusty, Etz, PC etc. Might be wrong but I understand Sead does a good 177.

[hooky]

the 50/50 might be right, but it should be looked at how often seizes happen. PT had 0 seizes he told me. I only had 1 in 3 years importing around 300 watches and that 1 time was my own fault...

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thanks - really helpful. I thought Sead had had some fairly bad press recently? Been looking at these from DSN:

http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/watchmmx/TITANIUM%20WATCHES/PAM%20177H%20UP%20GRADE%20VERSION/?action=view&current=DSCF3151.jpg

http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/watchmmx/PAM%20177H/?action=view&current=DSCF2888.jpg

and i can't really tell the difference. He says there is an "ultimate 177h" for $460 in his photo bucket but I can't find one called ultimate anywhere on there. he sent me these but they are a bit low-fi. does the pin on the cg look off?

Also been looking at this one for $348 from Trusty Time:

http://www.trustywatchguy.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_49&products_id=1023

I would be really grateful if any of you pros could give me some analysis of which is best.

both claim sapphire crystals, swiss 6497 with swan neck and DSN's is superlumed dial and hands, water resistant to 3atm (really?) and has a fixed canon pinion.

Really appreciate your advice guys.

Many thanks

G

[hooky]

There is not so much difference in quality between a Swiss ETA 6497-2 or an Asian swanneck 6497-2. The Asian is very good, and when serviced and lubricated, according to The Zigmeister, a very very good movement that is not worse than the Swiss at all. So I would get the Asian, and have it serviced after some time that you have it. Or used the save money to get a good strap, because besides from the rubber straps, all repstraps suck and the buckles are even worse.

And I would definately get a superlumed dial. There is so much difference you can't just start to imagine. Once u are used to that, you never want to have rep lumed watch again, believe me.

Something else, the sandwich dial of the 111 and 177 are not very 1:1. Do a search using the search button. You could also think about a 177 with sausage dial. Sausage dials also give more light when lumed, because thicker lume.

And often the waterproofing is more than 3atm, but they just say 3, because they won't be held responsible if the watch will be not very waterproof. 3bar is not suited for swimming, just for raindrops. If the caseback is closed properly (check) and if all rubber o rings are slightly greased very lightly!!, and if the crown is close to the case pressed firmly by the lever, it should be at least 5-6bar. But if you want to take it for swim always have your repwatch tested by a watch smith.

thanks - really helpful. I thought Sead had had some fairly bad press recently? Been looking at these from DSN:

http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/watchmmx/TITANIUM%20WATCHES/PAM%20177H%20UP%20GRADE%20VERSION/?action=view&current=DSCF3151.jpg

http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/watchmmx/PAM%20177H/?action=view&current=DSCF2888.jpg

and i can't really tell the difference. He says there is an "ultimate 177h" for $460 in his photo bucket but I can't find one called ultimate anywhere on there. he sent me these but they are a bit low-fi. does the pin on the cg look off?

Also been looking at this one for $348 from Trusty Time:

http://www.trustywatchguy.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_49&products_id=1023

I would be really grateful if any of you pros could give me some analysis of which is best.

both claim sapphire crystals, swiss 6497 with swan neck and DSN's is superlumed dial and hands, water resistant to 3atm (really?) and has a fixed canon pinion.

Really appreciate your advice guys.

Many thanks

G