PAM322 Gen v. Rep Comparison

[TswissT]

In an effort to "broaden my horizon" I thought I would bring a few of my posts over here... At least the ones I thought were somewhat useful...

Lets start with the caseback and some movement defects...

CASEBACK:

1. Font on the rep caseback is too thick.

2. Case serial numbers are in the wrong place... Notice the position on the gen... The numbers are engraved between the edge and the lug screws. The rep has them engraved too big and closer to the center

3. The gen caseback is thinner on the outer edge. Notice how much room is covered by the "bezel" of the rep caseback. Almost makes the gen case appear to be larger than the rep.

(Gen on the left)

Using the same pic...You can find MANY MANY differences on the movement.

1. Engraved lettering on the gen is either black or dark blue... (Hard to tell from some pics I have found. The rep looks to have no color at all...Just simply engraved.

2. The gen Minerva has rounded edges on the plates, as well as looking polished edges... The Rep is very rough looking with sharp edges.

3. The Serial number engraving is completely different.

4. The swan neck/dagger neck on the gen has a small sharp needle look. The rep looks to be the same ole dagger.

5. Shock system is completely different.

6. Notice the brass wheel in the center of the gen...It is brass. The rep has normal SS.

7. Although the rep plates seem to be engraved and not stick-on plates...It is still far away from being DEAD ON...

8. I applaud the effort to try something new by the rep factories, but like 99% of the rep movements...It just doesn't hold a candle to the original.

Closer look at the movements: If you can't tell which is gen; then stop reading...

PROFILE SHOT:

1. Check out the sharp edges on the gen... edges come to a nice subtle point...The rep is squared off at the ends.

2. The bezel on the gen has a more subtle curve to the crystal and the rep only protrudes a tiny bit then begins a long slope to the crystal.

3. Crown... Need I say anything... The pic speaks for itself.

DIAL:

1. Please excuse my lighting...The rep dial color is actually not too bad...Maybe a tad lighter than the gen; but VERY hard to capture in pics.

2. Lettering is not too bad... Rep suffers from the typical errors in the LOW "A" bar. It also suffers from the funny looking "R"

3. Hands look a little too fat compared to the gen.

I have not really compared the gold fluted inner bezel, AR, Lume, and a few other topics that are already flying across the boards...So forgive me.

Overall; like many of our beloved reps...We grow a tolerance to certain inherent flaws. In my opinion; I can live with these... Although I am normally a SOLID CASEBACK type of rep collector...I applaud the fact that the rep factories are trying something new, and am willing to support it. As for the dial...I still wear many reps with the same flaws; so I can live with it.

All in all; a nice watch that is fun to wear and looks nice...I have yet to run into anyone that would have the capability to call me out on it; and in fact, have already received several compliments.

I like it, and I can live with these issues... It is our imperfections that make us unique...And this is one unique watch.

Thanks and hope you enjoyed this.

[dluddy]

Thanks for posting this here T. This one has been on my radar lately

[StormTooper4]

Dude Thats such a sweet looking watch and seriously we should be chuffed to bits they've made an effort on the movement.

Is it really Titanium is it nice and light compared to say a 111? also have you got a Wrist shot please and how does it compare to a 127? A fiddy is too big for me and Im doubtful I can pull one of these off.

Thanks for putting the time in on the comparison, its quite a compelling rep

ST4

[TK471]

I don't know why, but for me, the comparison has put me off the rep. Many of the things I love about the gen -- the shine of the gold hands, for one -- just aren't present in the rep. It is a nice watch, though, in its own right.

[HauteHippie]

I don't know why, but for me, the comparison has put me off the rep. Many of the things I love about the gen -- the shine of the gold hands, for one -- just aren't present in the rep. It is a nice watch, though, in its own right.

Yea. Very nice comparison... but not for those previously interested in the rep, eh...

[TswissT]

Alright...I just sold this one; but before shipping I did a little photoshoot... (BIG MISTAKE)

Now I wanna keep it.

[dluddy]

I"d want to keep it too

[StormTooper4]

TSwissT I'd be kicking myself for sure WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!!

[TswissT]

I am a catch and release guy...I buy it, try it; and 90% of the time: sell it. Very few have lasted in my box.

This one was noce; but I need to fund other projects...

Base dials tend to stick around a little longer for me...

[nakortheblue]

This is really nice. I wish there was a pointed rep radi case around, that stops me cold on radi reps. I'm also a base guy but the secs@9 on a 47mm gives a more subtle effect than a 44mm marina.