the_rymeister Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Hi guys I'm looking at buying this dial for a vintage build and going to buy the $118 5513 from josh at fit this dial and gen t19 crystal.Could anyone help me to clarify if this dial in pictures below is gen before i buy it.Sorry If photos aren't great. Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers Ry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 sure is. expect this auction to reach over $200 though. does a josh fit a gen dial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 sure is. expect this auction to reach over $200 though. does a josh fit a gen dial? Cheers buddy, according to the topic " josh's 5512" gen Tudor and gen Rolex dials fit the 5512 and 5513 from josh, apparently both the 5512 and 5513 are same case. I'd better get paying for the dial. Cheers again mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danza1812 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 The dial looks real tatty. If I were you I'd hold off for a better example. Try looking at the vintage rolex forum. Here's my gen 5513 dial, spotless and picked up for less than $200. They are out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 The dial looks real tatty. If I were you I'd hold off for a better example. Try looking at the vintage rolex forum. Here's my gen 5513 dial, spotless and picked up for less than $200. They are out there. Nice watch and dial Matt, i'll keep searching the Internet. Hopefully something nice will come up that's Affordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Wow! I paid like a duke for mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Wow! I paid like a duke for mine! Sorry mate how much is a duke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 they are really not expensive - these dials are not popular in the gen world - with a little patienece you could get one for about $100. cheers, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I'll hold out and see what I can find.if anyone finds one in the meantime let me know. Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I'll hold out and see what I can find.if anyone finds one in the meantime let me know. Cheers guys Good move, The 5513 non-gilt dials come up fairly frequently and we certainly have the resources to make sure you get a gen one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Cheers guys much appreciated, please correct me if I'm wrong, I a right in thinking a gilt dial is a normal dial that shows signs of ageing and wear? Or just in poor condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Agreed on passing on that one. Keep looking at VRF as they come up pretty regularly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww12345 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 @Rymeister: A gilt dial is a dial which has the text in gold, instead of white. It is not caused by aging, but rather left the factory that way. IMHO, they look much nicer than regular old white dials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danza1812 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I think gilt is the very old dial with gold type writing. You should look for a gloss dial with tritium and White gold surrounds. or maybe even a nice luminova service dial. They are also kicking around for a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww12345 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yes, if you are going for the newer style 5513, you definitely need one with the white-gold surrounds. They are usually much cheaper than their matte counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Cheers guys, I think the dial I'm looking for is the type with the white gold surrounds like this one below. I'm in the process of collecting parts and information to start a 5513 build. Quite new to watch collecting and modding so I'm learning every day. I've got a tool kit coming from watch blitz so all I need now is a good 5513 watch for a starting point and a load of parts then i'll pull it apart and see what I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 the one pictured above is a service tritium dial from the 90s. the original dial currently being auctioned is an original 80s dial NOT service replacement. the condition of the dial in the auction needs a bit of cleaning and will never look perfectly mark free. the spider web cracking effect is sought after for these dials, not my taste but it certainly doesnt detract from it, so dont count the cracking as damage. but yeah - i would skip it. especially if you dont intend on pairing it with some tritium hands. instead keep your eye on this one http://www.ebay.ca/itm/VERY-RARE-Rolex-glossy-gilt-Submariner-dial-80s-referenz-5513-/250925768364?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6c575eac that mark above the crown looks like cloth lint to me, as in the seller tried to clean the dial before taking pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 cant seem to edit my post to append some information: there appears to be slight damage around the 7 o clock marker and the pinion hole on the dial looks like theres paint missing but wouldnt be noticeable once installed with hands, it could also be the camera angle and lighting. if you can get this one for a good price it is more than suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 theres also some GEN lumi hands right here for $90 !!! get em while they last! http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/message/1320611145/rolex+1680+hands+lumi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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