tutupuli Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi all, Been lurking around in this forum for a while and only recently joined. And I guess you can tell that I've finally pulled the trigger and made a purchase. Today I received in the mail a PAM 111 bought from one of our trusted dealers here. The whole transaction went smoothly and it's a great looking watch. The problem I faced is that the watch would not move. I wound the watch a few times and gave it a good shake and I can see the second hand moves for about awhile (few seconds) and it stopped. Was quite disappointed, so I left the watch aside. The watch starting working and I put it on my wrist. Sadly it stopped again. Interestingly, I noticed that when I left the watch face down (caseback facing ceiling), the watch will move (I have a see through case back). Keeping it in any position (that includes wearing it) the watch will stop. Checking with the vast knowledge base here if there is anyone have experienced that before and any suggestions on the best course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 I have seen that before. Any competent watchsmith can fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelizer Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Try give it a full wind - not just a few as the 111 is a manual wind watch (so a good shake won't help) - and see how it behaves. If the problem still persist then take it to a rep friendly watchsmith and he will most probably be able to fix it for you, just like dluddy says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutupuli Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Thank you for your inputs... good to know that this is not a 'major' problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) If the problem still persist then take it to a rep friendly watchsmith and he will most probably be able to fix it for you, just like dluddy says. Interesting. I was wondering, what's the best way to find one of these in our area? We should create a rep-friendly watchsmith locator which will enable to search by country and zip code. But seriously, how does one approach a watchsmith with a rep in their hands if they don't already know one who handles rep watches? Edited January 13, 2012 by poretl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davea Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Interesting. I was wondering, what's the best way to find one of these in our area? We should create a rep-friendly watchsmith locator which will enable to search by country and zip code. But seriously, how does one approach a watchsmith with a rep in their hands if they don't already know one who handles rep watches? I suggested that too.... no one agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Most little watch shops will give it a look. trouble is most just replace batteries so might always be able to help out. A list isn't a good idea for the watchsmith concerned as the tend to stock gens be they cheaper end of the market and to have their name associated with reps would not be a good thing. As for you watch a good palm slap might get it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 If the watch is going and stopping, going and stopping, most likely needs to see a Watch Repair as many mentioned above. I had a few like that in the past that had to rep repaired! Also since the watch is new,, it would not be a bad idea to get the watch serviced and at the same time fix the problem.. MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutupuli Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I am likely to just send this watch off to one of those little watch shops near where I live. That seems to be the best option for now. Appreciate your inputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 So I assume you tried the full wind. Sometimes a movement does need a "kickstart". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 A manual wind watch requires 40 turns to fully wind it. Not "a few turns". You have not wound your watch, and are wondering why it will not run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutupuli Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Oh trust me, once I noticed the problem, I've wound it a lot more times after that. Let the watch run face down and it ran fine overnight. Stopped once I picked it up to look at the watch and ran again when I lay it face down. Maybe the watch just hates me. haha The dealer suggested for me to contact him again after a few days. I would presume to exchange it the watch is indeed problematic. Based on the suggestions here, I'm inclined to send it a watchsmith. The postage costs and time taken feels like a lot of hassle if it is a minor problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 It could be out of beat. A very minor adjustment but you need a professional timing machine. When a watch is out of beat, it is difficult for it to start running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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