Guest yonatan.ezo Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hello guys really like this forum, i bought a rolex 1655 from NDT for 2500 dollars. i bought original 1655 hands from phong when i took the watch to watchmaker to change hands to original, got the surprise they dont fit..... NDT put a rolex 1560 movement inside and hands dont fit Anyone have an idea how i can manage to fix this NDT said rolex movement original, but not the one for 1655 they forgot to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 You need to post pics of the movement so someone can tell you what you actually have. I sent an email to phong about this exact subject and this is what he replied to me; I was asking him if a 2500$ 1655 was worth getting Adam, I know many sell cheap, but not the one you want, they use 1570 and modify GMT from Viet Nam not original genuine GMT parts, and some time there crystal glue not like my factory spec fit right on and no need glue, and some time bezel fonts is wrong , many thing can be wrong, you know the original movement value original GMT $2750.00 just movement alone, 1570 regular no GMT only cost $1200.00 and you buy GMT original parts put in is cost $1000.00 and hard to find original parts. so good case 1250.00 dial $265.00 hand set $125.00 labor installation and Clean over haul warranty 1 year $400.00 this is truly cost if you add up and I will make some money to stay in business, you need to wait until you have my daytona and find out how my work. many people buy my watch to use it while and resell they make good money, because even collector they look it can not tell. or resell to got same value they purchased I guarantee you if you buy 2750.00 explorer II if you open it to see movement GMT parts is production from Viet Nam not like my. I am sorry I can not match that price but I can do for $4000.00 Best regards, Phong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 1560 didn't have date I think, or GMT function, how did they manage that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I noticed that you are in France, there is a watchmaker there that can help you. I would pm fab1973 he's in France and knows a good one you can use. Hope that helps I wish you good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertieng Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 1655 uses cal.1570/5 GMT. Never cal.1560. I guess that where the things have gone wrong with the handset. Getting the original Rolex 1570/5 GMT in good working order is becoming so rare, and service parts are very hard to find too particularly for the GMT module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yonatan.ezo Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 thank you, i will try to post some pictures... is it possible i have a movement of a 1675 inside? what difference between both movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi22 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 You need to post pics of the movement so someone can tell you what you actually have. I sent an email to phong about this exact subject and this is what he replied to me; I was asking him if a 2500$ 1655 was worth getting Adam, I know many sell cheap, but not the one you want, they use 1570 and modify GMT from Viet Nam not original genuine GMT parts, and some time there crystal glue not like my factory spec fit right on and no need glue, and some time bezel fonts is wrong , many thing can be wrong, you know the original movement value original GMT $2750.00 just movement alone, 1570 regular no GMT only cost $1200.00 and you buy GMT original parts put in is cost $1000.00 and hard to find original parts. so good case 1250.00 dial $265.00 hand set $125.00 labor installation and Clean over haul warranty 1 year $400.00 this is truly cost if you add up and I will make some money to stay in business, you need to wait until you have my daytona and find out how my work. many people buy my watch to use it while and resell they make good money, because even collector they look it can not tell. or resell to got same value they purchased I guarantee you if you buy 2750.00 explorer II if you open it to see movement GMT parts is production from Viet Nam not like my. I am sorry I can not match that price but I can do for $4000.00 Best regards, Phong my favorite part of phong's response above: "many people buy my watch to use it while and resell they make good money, because even collector they look it can not tell." i just can't imagine anyone doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Ya, I was thinking the same thing. He must know that he facilitates fraud sometimes but shouldn't be bragging about it or suggesting that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 The early 1675 had a 1565 gmt movement in it, but the movement was marked 1560, just like the 1575 gmt is marked 1570. Your movement may be totally legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Was just about to post that but Heywood beat me to it (good to see a familiar face by the way ) You got a reclaimed early GMT 'engine' so the only suggestion is you take your Phong hands (what's wrong with them by the way? You don't say) to a watchmaker who may be able to broach them to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yonatan.ezo Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 the hands are rolex original, my watchmaker told me they to tight to fit the movement i have i will try to post some pics today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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