dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Ill check it out as well, Sean case should be here sometime this week Z serial is the perfect mix of modern but non ceramic sub, if that makes sense lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 BTW Fidhle007 you have a PM from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Build an M! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) LOL. Guys come on.. Z serial, F serial. They're the same. Are you really concerned about the cut of the teeth on the bezel? I agree the only question is whether to build an M or something without the rehaut engraving. The bezel is not necessarily an identifying feature when you start to notice what's really out there in the wild (gen-wise).... Edited August 21, 2012 by chieftang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I beg to differ. I see plenty of shallow-toothed, lughole subs in the wild but non-holed subs are much fewer and further between. When I do see them, the first thing that always tips me off is the bezel, it just stands out and is very unique, even from a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Hmmmm.... Based on bezel, which of these would you say has lug holes in the case: Edited August 21, 2012 by chieftang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 The bottom one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 But the dial on the top one is older, so that is possible... Get me a better picture of the top one, aka one that's not washed out and we'll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) The bottom one. The bottom one is an F serial (no lug holes). But the dial on the top one is older, so that is possible... The top one also has no lug holes. D serial. Newer dial. The pic isn't great, but then it's not much worse than when sitting on the wrist either. Edited August 21, 2012 by chieftang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I agree, the bezel is such a distinguishing feature, just the colour and the teeth mmmm! I bought a gen bezel because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 By the way, will a gen bezel fit on a TC sub with the TC crystal retention ring? Or do you need a gen retention ring as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) I agree, the bezel is such a distinguishing feature, just the colour and the teeth mmmm! I bought a gen bezel because of that. Can't go wrong with gen. Edited August 21, 2012 by chieftang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 From what ive read a gen bezel will not fit a TC retaining ring. Im yet to find any substantial evidence to say a gen bezel will not fit a Sean retaining ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 From what ive read a gen bezel will not fit a TC retaining ring. Im yet to find any substantial evidence to say a gen bezel will not fit a Sean retaining ring So what are you mating your gen bezel with? Sorry I've lost track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 All good, im going to attempt to use a Sean retaining ring with my gen bezel, failing that I will use a gen retaining ring and an aftermarket tension spring from WSO or clarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Sean case, also I presume? Sounds like an interesting experiment. When do we find out the results? Edited August 21, 2012 by chieftang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Ok, so the top one is newer. Called it. D-serial is about the era I'm talking about, when they changed the bezels. The gen bezel absolutely will not fit a Sean ring as it's almost a half-millimeter too small. You need a gen, or gen-spec ring. I'll try my gen bezels (I have an old one and a new one, shallow and deep teeth) on the TC when it gets here and do some comparison shots with the new rep bezel I've found. Hopefully that can clear up all the questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Ill give it a shot on the Sean when it arrives this week interesting you say its too small as someone else said the Sean ring is too big! Hey BTW interested in selling me that dial chieftang PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Ok, so the top one is newer. Called it. D-serial is about the era I'm talking about, when they changed the bezels. Heh.. You said the top one was older though. Nevertheless I see your point. Non-lughole cases can have either bezel, but the newer bezel is far more common. Older cases can have newer dials too, via service replacement. So, my point is that it's not worth sweating over, unless you're dead set on reproducing a newer serial 16610 for some reason (which is perfectly valid). The gen bezel absolutely will not fit a Sean ring as it's almost a half-millimeter too small. Doubted it would. The Sean dimensions are off with regards to bezel. You need a gen, or gen-spec ring. I'll try my gen bezels (I have an old one and a new one, shallow and deep teeth) on the TC when it gets here and do some comparison shots with the new rep bezel I've found. Hopefully that can clear up all the questions! That'll be good. Edited August 21, 2012 by chieftang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I have my doubts for the Sean retaining ring on the gen bezel as well, I may go aftermarket (possibly clark, WSO some other brand). Anyone had success with an aftermarket retaining ring and a gen bezel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Don't bother trying, it won't even snap on. The bezel is way too big and it just floats around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertiadrifter Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Guys, keep the comments coming!!! I am learning alot My 2 part question is, since we are discussing bezels, 1: would a GEN bezel assembly fit my TC Sub And 2: should I get a bezel with shallow teeth or deep teeth? My TC sub doesn't come with Rehaut engravings. So im going for the F or D serial Submariner Again, your help is truly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 First part: I will tell you next week. Second part, deep teeth. You're more likely to see a gen without lugholes and a deep toothed bezel in the wild. At least in my experience... I'm a tech at a small BMW/Benz/Porsche/Ferrari shop and a few of our customers are gen owners. I only see a few no-lughole subs but they all have deep teeth, even without engraving. All the shallow teeth I see are on earlier subs with tritium dials and 93150 bracelets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w.genzo Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Also shallow teeth from older series are deeper than TC's bezel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 The sean has arrived, case is great but the TC bracelet is much better. Also my gen crown doesn't screw all the way down on the Sean tube. Overall an amazing case. It's still an M serial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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