Pam 6152/1 four line homage build diary

[irate03]

As the parts starts arriving I thought I would start this latest build diary.
This build is to create a 6152/1 four liner.
Parts list: searched for and collected over some time on a tight budget.
2nd generation Jackson Fiddy 47mm case set.
Athaya OPB case back.
River LPMM Dial (painted black but unfinished)
NW plexi.
Athaya Angelus tall tube hands.
Athaya brass movement ring.
Movement initially a 3601 molly, but I picked up a really nice vintage 'Swiss' movement on the bay and if I can get a stem working and modify the hands to fit i'm going with that.
Case to be heavily reshaped by me.
Dial to be aged, wax filled and lumed by me.
Strap will be made by me.
Buckle will be one of Elias' beautiful creations, either the new compass vintage finish or a bronze.

Some pics so far









today's trial fitting

[BigDD]

Looks great man.  Can't wait to see the step by step diary.  Good luck with the build.

[Delboy]

Subscribed cant wait to see the step by step build

[irate03]

holio cornolio's lume arrived today, before I saw his thread I'd already ordered some V10 from Glow inc.
so tonight I did a little slightly scientific test. I used duraclear matt varnish as the binder as this is what i'll use on dials.
I mixed the T15-4 the N15-4 and the V10, I also mixed the N15-4 with some yellow glass ink just to see if the colour mixed (it did but it was too dark.)
I also stripped and painted a small seconds hand with the T15 (stuck in the bluetack on the right of the shot)
The V-10 is very grainy and doesn't sit nicely on the dial, holio's are very fine, mix really well and are easy to apply.
Here are the pics

These are quick test results for me that I thought i'd share, the results should be longer lasting using daylight, which I will test tomorrow.

exposed to repeated flashes at high power from my canon speedlite 550 flash gun (really scientific  :geek: )
initial shot with ambient room light.



under my desk away from 90% of room light


5 minutes later - still a good even glow although the number 9 on the dial which had the yellowed N15-4 is faint and rather unscientifically a may not have painted the 6 with the N15 quite as thick as I thought


10 minutes in and the blobs are still glowing and the 12 and 3 are still pretty good. top right the second hand is still visible


after 20 minutes the N15 and V-10 can still be seen,  the V-10 is slightly brighter.


!!! EIGHT HOURS LATER - the test board has been left in a dark room all night, then placed back under my desk with minimal ambient light so you can see the board and there is still a decent glow. the V10 is still the strongest but only slightly, AND bare in mind that in order to lume indices you would probably want to crush it down a lot more and add some pigment or 'coffee' age it afterwards which would definitely darken the glow.



the numbers were coated in two layers and the images were only taken on an iphone 5 so this test is not to be taken too seriously  :geek: but i'm very pleased with the T-15 lume, it's got a lovely colour and texture when it dries, the V10 seems to me to be to grainy, you get a puffy finish but it still looks to 'foamy' even for a snowflake finish and I would need to grind it down, it also has a slight green tint when dry.

Dial update. River's dial arrived yesterday, it comes painted black, it already has quite a nice texture but it's too 'manufactured' for my build, the engravings needed filling and I didn't want to strip the whole dial and then struggle painting and trying not to mess up the engravings again. I wax filled the engravings with white crayon then treated the dial with salt water, then coffee then more salt water then a white water colour paint solution, each layer left a residue and removed a bit of the layer below which builds up a very subtle finish. it was then sprayed with a fine coat of matt varnish. I used Cornholio's T15-4  lume which has a lovely vintage colour, but for this dial I wanted an even more yellow colour so I added a tiny amount of yellow glass paint which mixes really well. Using duraclear matt varnish as the binder the lume went on quite well, I may have made it too thick as it dried in no time at all. The final treatment is a light coffee wash across the dial letting some colour gather in areas of the lume  then another matt spray to seal everything.
At different angles you can see what looks like subtle water damage.

[irate03]

set up my new dremel type tool today to grind out the inside of a movement ring to fit my vintage swiss movement.
And sanded down an old molly dial to act as a base plate so I could use River's dial in my build.







I GOT THE HANDS TO FIT !!!
Bit of a tricky one this, the hands are molly sized angelus hands from Athaya. The hour tube needed pinching a little to reduce the size, the minute hand needed opening up very slightly by tapping a sewing pin in the hole a couple of times and the second hand fits perfectly, and because I am using a backplate I don't need to shorten the tubes.



I love getting things out to play with 





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ripped the hands ready for treatment and lume.

 





hands treated, and also my first hand luming attempt. There are a couple of reference pictures I'm using for the hands which show the hands not as clean and shiny as i've seen elsewhere.



 













These are the results of ageing my angelus hands.
















 

time for some reshape action





another case update





 

Edited January 23, 2013 by irate03

[Beone21]

Nice adventure great pictoral!

[irate03]

The four liner is done. Over the last few days i've been struggling to straighten the slightly bent stem, I've had to epoxy glue it in to the crown, and I've had to reset the keyless which was interesting   :geek:
I am soooooo glad I managed to get the movement working in this case, it's beautiful and seems to be running well and keeping time.

Crown guard is original Jackson which I have sterilised. The crown has been filed to give a my worn edge and filed to give deeper sharper edges. I also made a faux CP for the top of the minute hand as well as drilling out the lugs and making new compression bars.

The strap is an ammo pouch with an Elias bronze buckle which I made a few weeks ago, i've started making a couple of new straps from some veg tan cut offs especially for this watch but i'm unsure whether to go for the darker or lighter strap, I will be making the buckle side soon when the buckles arrive from Elias, a bronze and one of his new compass vintage steel.
Let me know which you think would look good on this.






The Lume shot- using the new vintage lume from Cornholio, nice mix mate  :thumbup:











Athaya's amazing Angelus hands after some vintage work.



Athaya's movement ring doing a nice job and looking good.



Got quite a nice pillow shape out of this case i think.



Nightwatch plexi sitting proud.



CG and crown both filed, shaped and vintagized.



And here are the straps.

[jcagara08]

OMG what a very beautiful build!

 

And no one even appreciated the work which I do buddy!

 

Mad props for you!

 

Wear in good health!

[FxrAndy]

Stunning build

[speedbird100]

Whoa!

[irate03]

There's been an update on this:

 

The four liner has been retired for the moment and given a fresh new look with an LP dial with sub seconds and wide hands from Adrian.
The dial is Adrian's painted, resin filled, cracked and lumed by me.
New Rlx plates are from Marlin

[penerai1950]

beautiful watch !!!

[jcagara08]

priceless!!!

 

If you ever sell this please put me up in the bidders list!!