problems with pam 111 and pam 061: loading wheels

[lo1700]

hello all from italy...

ive bought the 2 panerais some months ago from a china reseller...

all fine until some weeks ago, when both watched present the same problem:

 

the loading wheel does not load more the movement and dont change the hours.

 

making them see from a friend (watch-repairer), we opened and he told me there is the loading wheel broken internally...

 

the tige seems fine, as the movement itself..

 

so, im without working watches....

 

someone of you experienced this kind of problem?

can you confirm to me that is properly the loading wheel broken?

 

 

how can i solve?

 

 

txs a lot

Lorenzo

[Rolexman]

I have no idea what a loading wheel is but if you can't wind the watch anymore it is likely to be a keyless, winding or click wheel issue.

Mark

[FxrAndy]

Dito above it sounds to me (from what i undertand loading wheel to mean the crown) from what you describe with the hand setting that the keyless works ir the stem is snapped, but if your friend is a watch repairer (or does he just change batterys in quartz watches) then any thing on these movements is reletivly easy.  if you realy strugle to find some one to work on them then get in touch i am in germany.

[lo1700]

 

thanks, yes i mean the crown.

in standard position closed (fully pressed in) all is fine.

then , when you open the lever, you can load the movement; pulling again you can set hour/mins.

 

its this:

 

 

hope can be clear...

 

i simply noticed that the the crown does not engage the movement, so its impossible to change hours/min and load the movement.

 

the friend of mine unfortunally has not spares and said to me that ive to find a new crown, in order to replace it....

 

Dito above it sounds to me (from what i undertand loading wheel to mean the crown) from what you describe with the hand setting that the keyless works ir the stem is snapped, but if your friend is a watch repairer (or does he just change batterys in quartz watches) then any thing on these movements is reletivly easy.  if you realy strugle to find some one to work on them then get in touch i am in germany.

Edited March 15, 2013 by lo1700

[Rolexman]

Most likely the stem release screw. Do a search on 'stem release 6497'. Could be that he screw only needs to be tightened.

Mark

[lo1700]

sorry, i cant clearly understand your tip...

 

if you mean to try to tighten or un-tighten a bit the tige inside the crown, we have already tried.....max, min, half....

 

no solution...