Watch Guy Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 I purchased a Noob PAM111 v3, along with a Noob PAM005 not too long ago. To me, the dial color of the 111 is not pure black as the 005 and appears to be grayish. Does anyone know if this is the standard coloration, or have I got a lemon? On the Panerai web site, the 111 seems to be purer black, like the 005. Many thanks, Watch Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Any comments are appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panermaniac Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Those aren't the best pics, but it should be blacker than that. It almost looks like a crystal/AR issue. Could it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) Those aren't the best pics, but it should be blacker than that. It almost looks like a crystal/AR issue. Could it be? Perhaps it is the crystal? If so, is there an easy fix? It is diving me nuts! Here are some additional pics... Edited June 3, 2013 by Watch Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indywatchguy Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Looks like the wrong dial. Almost like a tobacco color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hmmmmm...Seems more grey, than brown. That would seem odd that it is a different dial? Any other opinion/suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker01 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 if it's not the xtal effect, then it's the dial......u gotta change one of them.....and taking pictures of these dials doesn't really emphasize the flaws of this kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 May I ask what you mean by xtal effect? Sounds like I am screwed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Very interesting observation indywatchguy. Upon closer inspection! I think that you are possibly correct. The lettering on the dial seems off white and it could very well be a tobacco dial. Very bizarre! Any suggestions on where to get a correct dial? Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indywatchguy Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Did you buy from a TD? If so return it and they will exchange the dial. Expect two months turn around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumroxas Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 I've had both watches but h factory and it exhibits the same phenomenon. The 005 will stand out more even when i switched cases. I think it has something to do with the specific dial color and the sausage lume which can be more distinct at every angle. Shown here is an h fact 005 and a 177 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Yes I got it from a TD. When I compare it to my 112 the 111 dial is certainly less black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 How difficult would it be to switch the case with my 112, or am I better to take it to a repair shop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panermaniac Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 How difficult would it be to switch the case with my 112, or am I better to take it to a repair shop? Not too difficult. Remove 2 CG screws, remove case back, LIGHTLY disengage keyless works and remove crown, undo 2 movement holder screws, remove movement and swap. Put together in reverse order. But how would this help? If the dial is off color, it will still be off color in a new case. And if it's the crystal, you'll then have a foggy 112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Thanks Panermaniac. I think that I will leave it be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panermaniac Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Thanks Panermaniac. I think that I will leave it be... No problemo, but probably the best thing you could do is sell it to me very cheaply! Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Watch Guy - I have both of the same models, and upon further inspection my 005 does appear to have a deeper black to the dial, but not as extreme as what your pictures indicate. Could be your crystal is exaggerating the issue as suggested. I think there might be another problem with your 111, that I am surprised has not been brought up yet. It appears that your 111 has the flawed 111 dial that was discovered back in Dec. The number 2 in the 12 has the wrong shape as does the 3.Here is a link that describes the flaws in more detail:http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pcteam-warning-dial-125655p2.htmlDepending on which TD you bought the watch from, you should be able to contact the TD about getting a replacement dial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Thanks Jamesfl. I bought it from Puretime and I have put an e-mail into them, however no response yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Indeed Jamesfl. Upon further inspection, the watch dial displays the flaws with the "2" and the "3" as you have indicated. Good observation! Edited June 5, 2013 by Watch Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 From my experience, Angus is usually very helpful. You are in good hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I hope so. I have e-mailed his QC e-mail address found on his web site. Can you recommend another e-mail address? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Due to the time difference, you should give them 24 hours to respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I hear you. I am just accustomed to the remarkably speedy responses from Andrew... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Guy Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I connected with Angus from Puretime and he is going to replace the dial. Thanks everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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