Hands identification

[dbane883]

Anyone have an idea what these hands might've been originally meant for? I'm hoping they are for a mid 60's 5513. But not sure if the 5513 ever had gold hands. Any help is appreciated.

Edited November 5, 2013 by dbane883

[dbane883]

Here's the other side of the hands

[cc33]

Early gilt 5513's did have gilt hands but these aren't them. I've tried to identify them for you but they don't match any so far. Here are yours compared to 5513 hands. I also don't really like the way they look, could be MY hands, there's a guy in china who buys them and artificially ages them, he tries to pass them off as gen and to me these resemble those. The lume is not right, so if they do happen to be gen hands they have been relumed. Gilt hands are dull and not shiny like in these watches

Edit: I showed you those pics of the back comparo's because the gen 5512/13 hands have pinion walls that are taller and in the case of the hour hand a smaller diameter

[dbane883]

That's great CC. appreciate the research. So these will most likely NOT fit on a 1520 then?

So I own a set of mystery hands. Oh well. Into the parts bin they go

[cc33]

I've been going over it all for a while and there are a few strange things that are leading me to believe they actually are meant for a 15xx movement, the alternative, 10xx movement hands have a smaller minute hand pinion (the diameter of the hole). I think it may be the angle of your pics that threw me off and the fact that genuine 15xx series gilt hands are slightly diff from the back. The wall I was referring to earlier is taller on genuine hands, (I do not think this would affect being able to use them) and the fact that the same wall is so short on your hands threw me.. Here's a pic of the wall, and a few comparo's with better angles that match your pics. To summarize, I don't believe they are genuine, but after more research they do appear to be for a 15xx movement, lume is not original and so if they do happen to be genuine hands they have been relumed.

They will fit a 1520

[cc33]

Comparo with 10xx hands to show you that the minute hands hole is smaller on 10xx hands vs 15xx hands

Top yours mid 10xx hands bottom 15xx hands

There are no other possibility, gilt hands spanned two generations of movements so safe to say you can mount them on your 1520

[dbane883]

Here is a better side profile.  But yes, I see your point about the shorter pinion walls.

 

no idea why that was rotated like that.  I suck at the internet

[cc33]

That pic is better, short but.. No big deal. They still give me a funny feeling but they could be gen. If they have shine they are likely plated and not gilded, you can tell in person better. So gen relumed or replica baked hands I'm not sure..

So sorry I can't help further

[Nanuq]

Dang, cc33.

You are the Rolex Whisperer.

[cc33]

I wish, if I was I'd know for sure if they were gen or not! But thank you

[Valty]

Shorter pinion wall can tell they are hands for GMT....

But I don't like the look of the metal :

It doesn't look flat as it should, they seems aged artificially

Not talking about the crap (re) lume

To me they are rep. The hour hand let me thinks they are from CWP... Just guessing

Again not sure, but it's my feeling

[correctime]

If that's a rep seconds hand it's by far the best looking pointer I've ever seen