spch Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) Hi, I'm thinking about buying a Pam 188 online. Its from a reputable vendor (and the pictures look spot on) but no box, replacement strap or papers. Does anyone know if you can check the serial numbers to confirm authenticity ? They're - OP6637, PB524880 and H093/700. Thanks, Edited May 17, 2014 by spch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvln68 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 do u mean this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/301182850581?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 if so this looks like early noob version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spch Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Yes - thats the one. Did some more digging and the PB serial number is a common fake e.g. on Torobravos: http://www.torobravos2014.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=576 Either its gen (and a bargain at the £2400 current bid) or someone is going to be very annoyed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 This is a perfect example of what has been discussed in a topic in general Discussion today. the increase in the number of fakes on EBay. What you did, and obviously a bunch of other folks didn't is you did your due diligence. Everything known to man is available on the internet, all you need to do is search!! looking at this auction, the first thing that strikes me is the dealer feedback. 96% -Red Flag, next off look at what the guy is selling, mostly used clothing. He's not a watch merchant -Red Flag. most of the watch stuff he sells are parts and accessories. Now to the watch itself, what is a genuine Daylight selling for? On EBay, they are selling for around 6500-8000 USD with box and papers, screwdriver, etc. So the low price alone would lead you to be suspicious. Even if a seller of a genuine watch starts the bidding at 1 USD, I can guarantee you he will have a reserve price that is very close to market value. With these types of sales, once the bidding gets over 300-400 USD, the seller is making money! -Red Flag And last, where are the boxes and paperwork? It would be very suspicious that someone would keep the rubber bezel guard, but throw away that nice wooden Panerai box, all the paperwork and accessories. -Red Flag I sure hope that the buyer takes this watch to a dealer or competent watchsmith, have him open the caseback and see the A7750 movement inside, take some photos and a statement that it's a fake. If done quickly, the buyer may have a chance to get his money back. Pretty good chance that if the seller thinks he got away with it, he might hang around, but he may take the money out, close his PayPal account and disappear into the night. Can always reappear with a different name address and email, presto!! New account on EBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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