flavor flav Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Hey flav - what sayeth you about a GMT hand that is off by about 20 minutes? Is the hand just misaligned on the stack or could it be a gearing thing? all hands set to 12:00 and "hacked" before removing and installed at 12:00 same as pulled off. may be the adjustment. it's fine. i tested it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavor flav Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 remember the GMT hand is a 24 hour rotation. that's where you may be confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 all hands set to 12:00 and "hacked" before removing and installed at 12:00 same as pulled off. may be the adjustment. it's fine. i tested it. Actually, I was asking about mine. That one looks perfect. With all hands at 12, the GMT hand sits at about 23:40... As long as the GMT hand isn't keyed on the stack, a simple realignment should take care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lello Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) Hi guys... just thought to show you my 2893 Pam 063, after all the upgrades I made on it. Right now, only the AR coat is missing..., then it will be perfect! Mods made: - Genuine tritium hands set (from Adam-co) - 1:1 crown that I further polished (from Palp) - Correct datewheel (from Lello) - 1,8x sapphire cyclops (from Sssurfer) - Dial re lume - Genuine alligator strap (from Panerai Firenze boutique) The total cost, included the rep price, is around 1000 € Here are a few shots..., let me know your thoughts, if you like. Edited December 20, 2006 by lello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 It looks fantastic. It just reminds me that I need those last two pieces -- date wheel and cyclops. Then it looks as good as the 63 is going to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lello Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 ...yes, I'm sure yours and mine 063 will be unbelievebly close to the real deal then. Don't forget that the genuine uses a 6mm cyclops and not 7mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Don't forget that the genuine uses a 6mm cyclops and not 7mm. Yes! 063 was a C series only! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 What's the standard cyclops size that comes on the rep, what is it 4mm? 7 is a lot better than 4, so if it's between getting a new one that's just a WEE bit too big, and keeping one that's really too small, I'll probably go too big. (he heh. that's what SHE said) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 this is why i am extremely careful and pull the whole stack at once to prevent scratches. Pulling the whole stack at once is not a standard practice, and there is a real risk of damaging the movement by pulling more than one hand at a time. Standard practice is to remove each hand in turn, if done correctly, there is no risk of scratches to the hands, there is a real risk of damage to the movement caused by the stress of removing all 4 hands at once. Simply hacking the movement at 12, and then installing the hands at 12 again, is not a realiable way to do any watch, especially a GMT model. You need to take more steps to ensure that the GMT hand lines up with the main ones, it's not a static installation but a dynamic one. There are many things to consider when installing hands, gear train, spacing etc...but that is all covered in basic watchmaking courses. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Pulling the whole stack at once is not a standard practice, and there is a real risk of damaging the movement by pulling more than one hand at a time. Standard practice is to remove each hand in turn, if done correctly, there is no risk of scratches to the hands, there is a real risk of damage to the movement caused by the stress of removing all 4 hands at once. Simply hacking the movement at 12, and then installing the hands at 12 again, is not a realiable way to do any watch, especially a GMT model. You need to take more steps to ensure that the GMT hand lines up with the main ones, it's not a static installation but a dynamic one. There are many things to consider when installing hands, gear train, spacing etc...but that is all covered in basic watchmaking courses. RG I must say I have noticed that the GMT hand does not line up precisely with the main time. It seems to be just about 10-15 minutes ahead. In other words, it the main time is 12:00, and the GMT time is set for three hours ahead, the GMT is not lined up on the hour marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-o-w-m Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 thank you for your details of this....learn much.... i want to be up..up...up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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