daovto Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I've recently been drawn towards the PAM side I picked up a nice 203 and have enjoyed wearing it over the last week or two... it isn't a super rep or anything but I just like it. Anyhow... After cleaning, refinishing and polishing the case I noticed that there were some marks on the I side of the crystal that looked like could be cleaned away. I'm used to uncasing watches and doing some modifications etc. So I thought I would be reasonably low risk in removing the movement and cleaning the crystal. All went well until I went to put the crown/stem back into the movement and then I guess I've been unfortunate and screwed the works or something. After many attempts I did get the stem engaged but seemed to be stuck in time setting position. Also seemed that the tiny screw that is used to secure the stem (lock it in place) was just turning endlessly without tightening. To be clear it didn't tighten and then strip or anything it just never engaged to tighten. So... I either need a fix or new movement. And to be honest I'm not sure if it's worth it if I need somebody to do the work - which I would prefer so as to avoid me screwing another one up. What would you do... repair, replace movement or sell for parts and move on to another? Shame to be at this junction as I really liked the watch :-( I'm in UK by the way... if anybody can recommend the go to PAM guys for work. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinkis Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Natas. He's your man. Send him a PM. Great guy. I had same kinda dilemma with a 243 that wouldn't keep time. He's like my Obi-Wan Kenobi Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themannier Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 This screw which is used to lock the stem is certainly broken ( sometimes it happens when screwing with too much torque), it happened to me before...This was a joke to order one and to change the broken one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycrounders Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 If you want to try it yourself.The screw pictured above most likely got unscrewed too much and disengaged from the setting lever. Most likely your fix is only a keyless reset isnt too difficult. You can follow this guide for disassembling and reassembling the keyless, http://www.eta.ch/swisslab/6497/6947.html You need to worry about the steps that include the Yoke, Setting Lever, and Yoke Spring.Those 3 components is what resetting the keyless includes. You do have to remove the dial and those three parts are hidden under this part. I hope this helps. If the set lever screw did strip or snap though you will need to replace the screw pictured above. These steps are good if the set lever screw and setting lever have no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daovto Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Brilliant help @dinkas@themannier@nycrounders I think I've certainly my unscrewed the set lever screw too much and disengaged. I feel confident to attempt the keyless reset. I've done some work on movements - but only Seiko. I did some reading on 6497 and the steps above seem ok. Final question assume hand removal is same as any other?? But any pitfalls to avoid?Thanks so much gents... this watch is worth it... and the crystal is clean now tooSent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalobos.erick Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 It should be easy to take hands off and install back on.Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themannier Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, MRWOZZA70 said: Brilliant help @dinkas@themannier@nycrounders I think I've certainly my unscrewed the set lever screw too much and disengaged. I feel confident to attempt the keyless reset. I've done some work on movements - but only Seiko. I did some reading on 6497 and the steps above seem ok. Final question assume hand removal is same as any other?? But any pitfalls to avoid? Thanks so much gents... this watch is worth it... and the crystal is clean now too Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk The hands set is very easy to remove and to install if you have the right tools...you are lucky because the eta6497 is a movement for «beginners» ; i mean that there is not so much parts plus they are pretty big and solid ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycrounders Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Brilliant help @dinkas[mention=62697]themannier[/mention][mention=77621]nycrounders[/mention] I think I've certainly my unscrewed the set lever screw too much and disengaged. I feel confident to attempt the keyless reset. I've done some work on movements - but only Seiko. I did some reading on 6497 and the steps above seem ok. Final question assume hand removal is same as any other?? But any pitfalls to avoid? Thanks so much gents... this watch is worth it... and the crystal is clean now too Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Here are some videos that I used when I was learning. I hope they help you too. Sorry links aren't working right , linked you to one. You can check out his other videos. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daovto Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Here are some videos that I used when I was learning. I hope they help you too. Sorry links aren't working right , linked you to one. You can check out his other videos. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Never did get this in the right hands for a fix... will be coming up as spares or repair. Good projectSent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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