Flashback to 2005...

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All 'nos' from about 17 years ago.  Watch without bracelet has a 14K aftmkt bezel, sapphire crystal and genuine crown.  Others have plated bezels with gold filled (?) center links.  The 'Jubilee' bracelets were claimed to have solid 8K middle links but who knows?  Some I traded away have been worn 10 or 15 years and the 'gold' center links have no wear through.  The bracelets have 'gold' caps soldered on the hoods like genuine, not embossed and plated.  Cases will take oem spec crystals, bezels, case tubes/crowns and all the tutone models have Seagull ST6D movements. 

These watches with the same mid cases and dials were also sold back then with new swiss eta 2836, 14K bezels and center links for $750, 18K trim was $100 more.  Solid 14K models were around $3000, 18K was about $500 more.   Gold was $400 to $500 Troy oz USD back then compared to $1700+ now.  The ST6 cases have plastic movement spacers with no case clamp groove and the swiss eta cases have a groove with case clamps, other than that the mid cases are identical.

 

The watches below were sold for $250 with the 8K center link claim, crystals are MG. 

Q...How did I end up with them? 

A...Took them in on a debt.  

 

Very Good dials/hands...

 

Also have a box of SS models (pic from a previous post)...

Some SS models have ST6, some have NN/DG.

 

The ST6 gets no respect but they are really pretty good movements if not full of dirt or mishandled.  They may have been loosely copied from the 1950s A. Schild 1361 and are accurate and reliable, but the a/w assembly is a pain to r/r.  They started out as a manual wind lady size movement and the auto wind assembly and larger main plate were added later.

ST6...

 

 

AS 1361...

Pic from NAWCC forum.