jgctx Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Can you buy the ceramic dial for a GMT II out there and have it installed on a rep? I think that is a great watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kire612002 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Can you buy the ceramic dial for a GMT II out there and have it installed on a rep? I think that is a great watch. im interested too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) you mean the bezel? As far as i know, the new GMT Master ceramic bezel is hundreds and hundres of dollars alone for an aftermarket one... pretty pricey upgrade for a rep right now. in a year or so, some aftermarket company will be hammering these out by the millions and they will come down in price. I havent heard anything about swapping one in or if it will fit. Might be tought to sand down a ceramic bezel to fit when modding is needed. Take your dremel to your toilet or your sink and you'll see what i mean. Usually it just chips and breaks Lonnie Edited July 25, 2007 by L-dizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 What you mean like THIS insert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 What you mean like THIS insert? You could prob rep a good copy of that bezel with hard scratch resistant plastic of some kind.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgctx Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 That is exactly what I mean...I have seen other reps with ceramic bezels but now rolies.....has anyone heard anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 You could prob rep a good copy of that bezel with hard scratch resistant plastic of some kind.. Exactly! Gloss-finish plastic two piece 'sandwich' insert (black cutout on top of white insert) would do the job very well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Understood Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ah, my dear Doc, Have you never experimented with ceramics? Although they are quite brittle, their scratch resistance is superb. Unless a watch was never used, it would soon acquire a patina not otherwise seen on the genuine piece. To my uneducated eye this would be a dead tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Ah, my dear Doc, Have you never experimented with ceramics? Although they are quite brittle, their scratch resistance is superb. Unless a watch was never used, it would soon acquire a patina not otherwise seen on the genuine piece. To my uneducated eye this would be a dead tell. Uneducated eye yeah right! lol I read in a couple of places that this new GMT case was 42mm? I havent seen a GEN yet. Im sure its the same 40mm though. Your best bet would be to buy a GEN bezel and ceramic insert and put it on your rep. I can just imagine how much that would cost.... yikes! Lonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uziuzi Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 The new GMT II Steel is in construction and is going to be another of those super-reps, including the nice bezel. So be patient gentlemen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 The new GMT II Steel is in construction and is going to be another of those super-reps, including the nice bezel. So be patient gentlemen.... Erm, source please? Or just an calculated guess? Super-rep? Anyway, of course a more accurate version will be available at some point, you can already get a nice but basic first-gen attempt from certain dealers. L-dizzle - I am fortunate enough to have seen and tried on a 116710 in the flesh (or is that 'metal'? ), my local AD had on "on approval" behind the counter and very much not for sale. I can confirm that the case (and bezel) is definitely and noticeably larger than the standard 40mm diameter, so that rumoured 42mm sounds right. But what is most apparent is the thickness of this beauty, no more waif-like (i.e. comfortable) GMT dimensions, this baby has the girth of a Sub at least (although wears very differently, not like any other Rollie I've encountered). And as Miss Understood will no doubt attest, girth is all that matters p.s. the watch is a real eye-catcher in every sense, truly elegant but modern, and I couldn't help myself and put my name down there and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1665fan Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 The new GMT 2 has 40mm diameter, like the older one. I know that for sure. Only the bigger case and the more massive character let it look like it was bigger. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAVIGATER Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Doe you realy think the new one is not bigger Greetngs Navi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1665fan Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 So go on and measure by yourself if you don't believe me. The new case is higher, some parts are bigger, but the diameter is 40.3mm. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uziuzi Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Erm, source please? Or just an calculated guess? Super-rep? Anyway, of course a more accurate version will be available at some point, you can already get a nice but basic first-gen attempt from certain dealers. Angus mentioned it in one of hie posts, I think it was over at rwi. And yes, it will be super rep with real ceramic...lets just hope they do it right. There are a lot details which might cause trouble apart from the bezel....for instance the "Rolex" engraving on the rehaut....plus makers are yet to prove to us that they are able to create a Rolex super rep...cause in the past there was always somethng faulty with them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 You can be as anal as you want about it, personally I couldn't care whether it is 42, 41.5696797 or indeed 40.3mm. And of course, the larger 7mm triplock crown and bezel assembly affect the size. All I know is that it appears larger on the wrist. It's not a trick of the eye...since it has the same standard 20mm bracelet (Daytona-type also seen on late model Yachties) you only have to look at the width of the individual lugs compared with the old GMTII to see it's not the same diameter, whatever anyone says. And no, I'm not going back in to see my guy with a set of digital calipers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Angus mentioned it in one of hie posts, I think it was over at rwi. And yes, it will be super rep with real ceramic...lets just hope they do it right. There are a lot details which might cause trouble apart from the bezel....for instance the "Rolex" engraving on the rehaut....plus makers are yet to prove to us that they are able to create a Rolex super rep...cause in the past there was always somethng faulty with them.... Funny I thought 'Angus' when I saw the reference to super rep. I put no stock in that term anyway. The Rolex engraving has already been done for a long time on the TOG and others, etched or engraved quality differs I recall....not a design feature I like on the gens anyway. So I suspect the only part of this rep that will be 'super' is the ceramic insert. I seriously doubt the case will be accurate, for all the obvious reasons that have been discussed to death over the years. And then there's the movt.....bastardized (albeit correct-stack) 2836 again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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