Pam 192 need help

[capt_cope]

So I've spent the last half hour searching through old threads (made it back to april of 06) and have yet to find any real input on the 192. Specifically the ones offered by TWP. I noticed the dials are different between the one on leather and the one on the bracelet. I'm having some real trouble finding any images of GEN 192s, but from the tiny image I did find it appears the leather model is more accurate (fewer markings on dial) Do any of you more knowledgeable types know which model is correct? Should I avoid the 192 and stick with the 253? I'm jonesing for a new pam, and the chrono models are really looking appealing. The Titanium would be pretty darn cool (IMO) which is what's drawing me to the 192, but if it's got glaring flaws (aside from the street price of $27,000) I'd probably stick with the regetta flyback.

Edit

Ok I finaly dug up a nice pic of the gen. Looks like the dial is pretty close, with the font on the subdials being too fat. The L Swiss L is better than on the 253 (it's too big on the 253) and the pushers are polished, but should be brushed. I can live with those small flaws. I think I'm going to go pull the trigger.

Edited October 11, 2007 by capt_cope

[turboGUATE]

OK Captain,

Here's my humble advice. The current 192 has too many flaws, from the dial to the movement. Not to mention that the gen case is made out Tantalum and not SS (most current case) nor Ti (old case). Old case 192 had the somewhat more accurate Seagull/Lemania/whatever movement. Current offers have Asian 7750.

So I rather take a good 253 with real sapphire with good AR and if the money is no object, go for the swiss 7750.

I own a Ti case 192, and as of this moment is going through some serious modding. If you want more gen pics of the 192, let me know.

Cheers!

[capt_cope]

Thanks Turbo. Looks like I made the right choice then. After my edit I stared at the two (192 and 253) and realized that there were just too many flaws on the 192, so I took the plunge and ordered a 253 instead.

The older case (Ti) looks much better than the new case, but the old dial is missing the lume by the subdials (they are too close to the edge of the dial) the caseback says stainless steel, and the pushers are polished. The new one is ss. So it's just plain out of the question. The 253 is pretty darn close. Couple small flaws, but you need to hold it, or have a photo of it to notice (I can't count how many markers L Swiss L spans on someone's wrist, and without a gen to compare it to (absurdly unlikely, there are only 500 of them in existence) the sub-dial font is pretty tough to call. Not to mention if I sold all my belongings I MIGHT be able to afford a 253, but there is no way in hell I'm picking up a 192 and still coming to work clothed, and in a car. Now I'll have some competition against my Boss' Gen Daytona. He's started to warm up to reps as well, and wants a rep of his watch to wear while traveling abroad. Gotta figure out if anyone makes a good rep of a TT pre-2000 Daytona.

[andreww]

Stay away from the TWP 192. It is $hit, plain and simple. I you'll notice, there isn't even a Tachymeter ring, the markings are painted on the dial. Looks ridiculous.