Vacheron Constantin Overseas...real or "real"

[Guest ceaser]

bad pictures, other than that, can't find anything wrong

By the way nice forum

Edited October 28, 2007 by ceaser

[b16a2]

I may be wrong but the date window looks the wrong shape.

[tenacious_b]

ask for a clear close up of the dial to see if there is an accent in the word Geneve

[Guest ceaser]

hmm nothing else? how much would you pay/is it worth just by seeing these pictures?

Edited October 27, 2007 by ceaser

[LordRasta]

ask for a clear close up of the dial to see if there is an accent in the word Geneve

This is the key and I bet that is why the shot is "fuzzy"

[Guest ceaser]

Here's a similar watch:

http://www.timeofswitzerland.net/Vacheron-...B01A-9094_e.cfm

Hmm paid $500 for everything...hehe...said I would pay the remaining($700) when I receive the watch.

[LordRasta]

You bought this watch? From fleabay or from this Time of Switzerland? The VC Overseas goes for around $7,000. No way you're getting a 7k watch for 1,200.

[ahchard]

date window looks off... cant tell for sure as pics are too blur.

[Guest ceaser]

Yes, got it from ebay, the guy has been selling high end watches without complaints for a year now...wierd

Anyways, what about case, bezel, bracelet, box etc?

[b16a2]

The date window looks too square, not sure about the case etc... but here's a pic for reference.

[namjah]

1,200 for a 7,000+ watch sounds like a scam to me.

[Guest ceaser]

The guy will send me some more pics soon, lets see if they are better...

[Guest ceaser]

Got a much clearer shot, seems like he is trying to hide the V&C emblem, but what do you think?

Looks fake to me...Date + Swiss Made sign look bad.

Edited October 28, 2007 by ceaser

[LordRasta]

I would to this. Have him set the time on the watch to 3:15, then take the same EXACT shot as the close up. We want to see the word "geneve". Also the date window does not look beveled to me. It's harder to tell on the black face Overseas but it should be beveled. If he balks then you may of bought the 1st gen VC Overseas rep. The 2nd gen has the beveled date window and you can get the 2nd gen with double AR. This watch doesn't look like it has AR. Both generations have "geneve" incorrect, there should be a ` over one of the "e" 's.

[Corgi]

Its a fake watch duh isn't that is the same accessory boxset Joshua sells for $128? Look at how poor the plastic is on the hang tag, like the two pieces were glued very cheap. If not the watch itself, the box is definitely now genuine...

...and a $7,000 for $1,200 are you kidding me right now?

To me, all signs point to scam.. but ya never know

[LordRasta]

Ceaser,

It is a damn fine watch among the rep world. Nice heavy weight and it wears comfortably. I pity you however if you have to remove links. The screws are almost impossible to get out of the damn bracelet. Stay away from the fleabay if you want a gen. At least here you know you're getting a rep. Oh and you could of gotten this same watch from one of the dealers around here for about $200. Don't feel bad, you are not the first and you damn sure won't be the last to get scammed.

[Guest ceaser]

Well then, I'll try to claim some of my $ since I used PayPal

Thanks

Edited October 28, 2007 by ceaser

[LordRasta]

Check what he offered for PayPal Protection. Most of them do $200 instead of $2,000. I've never had problems with sellers and PP, but I believe if he specified $200 that is all you're protected up to.

[Guest ceaser]

He keeps insiting that it's a genuine watch and is willing to refund my $500(I still owe him $700)

So what should I do, ask him for better pictures, then refund?

[LordRasta]

Again, have him set the watch to 3:15 or 6:30 then send a UP CLOSE CLEAR shot of the dial. That will tell the story.

[Guest ceaser]

Ok, he will send me a clear 3.15 shot tomorrow.

[tobico]

its fake....

[Guest ceaser]

its fake....

100% ?

[LordRasta]

Come on ceaser, even if it was 1% fake it's still a fake.

[Guest ceaser]

I meant if he was 100% sure